Jack Rodwell

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Wayno said:
Whilst I admire your passion. Rodwell’s career has been hampered because of the mental side of the game.

Physically he is fine , and when it comes to development, injuries aren’t an excuse. He doesn’t have the mentality to be a professional footballer and injuries haven’t caused that.
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I humbly defer to your obvious superior knowledge of sport psychology. I feel a bit stupid now believing all these years he was just injured all the time.
 
Axlswhk said:
I expect him to impose himself. To close down and win the ball back as much as he can. To occasionally drive the team forward. Make himself a nuisance to the opposition and launch quick counter Attack with quick forward passing. That’s what a defensive midfielder must do. he failed miserably.
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Ok mate.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
I humbly defer to your obvious superior knowledge of sport psychology. I feel a bit stupid now believing all these years he was just injured all the time.
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He signed his first pro contract in 2008, in the subsequent seasons he went on to play in 20+ games twice 19 games once and 14 games , then he signed for Man City, and I’m being kind and only counting league games.

So how many more would he have had to play in order to fulfil this potential and not end up in league one?
 
Barnfred 55 said:
I humbly defer to your obvious superior knowledge of sport psychology. I feel a bit stupid now believing all these years he was just injured all the time.
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Simon Grayson said earlier in the season that Rodwell has told him ‘he’s not physically or mentally able to play in midfield’.

Chris Coleman said he only had to knock on his door and ask to be included in the squad again. He didn’t.

He has a weak mentality, without a doubt.
 
Rudolf Hucker said:
Frankly I’m surprised more players don’t go this way.

Young lads with ££millions thrown at them & surrounded by people kissing their ar5e.

You either have motivation & drive in your makeup or you don’t. £50K A WEEK whether you play or not isn’t the best motivator.
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Completely right that''s why I'm increasingly going off footy. Even average players get paid 10 of thousands of pounds a week. Even players like Browning and Galloway will be one huge amounts, it doesn't even help them it hinders their progress. They just end up surrounded by users who don't care about them and want their money. Their does need to be a wage cap to make sure that players aren't motivated by money and actually care about the clubs they play for. Rodwell is a particular example of what can go wrong in football, he probably will end up with gambling or alcohol problems like many footballers do. Most footballers have no incentive to try for their clubs, they get paid huge amounts of money whether they lose 5-0 or win 5-0, hardly a recipe for success. Sunderland ended up with huge amounts of rats who only cared about money and just let their club sink, while getting huge amounts of money for it, same with Villa.
 
Wish this tread wasn’t in the Everton forum - I keep thinking Bill has charitably offered him a career rebuild a la Baxter

Keep this horrible little worm away from us
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Agree with a lot of that mate. Think there's also been some re-writing of history regarding young Jack too. For some reason we love to dish the dirt on our academy kids, even after they leave the club apparently.

As a kid he was always highly thought of. In those days it wasn't like today where you can watch a lot of youth football live on TV or on line and we know a lot about the younger lads coming through. Then, you had to be something special to have your name known but most Evertonian's were looking forward to seeing him make it into the first team. He represented England youth at all levels and was also invariably captain. He was a regular for what was then an open age Everton reserve team from the age of 15. He made his first team debut in Europe at 16 and premier debut aged 17. He played 21 times for England U21s making his debut aged 18, and then made his debut for the full England team aged 20.

When he first became a regular in the first team at 18 I thought he looked a natural and had the ability to turn both ways with the ball which is very rare. But I felt he had that coached out of him pretty quickly by the ultra cautious Moyes. He came into a squad that included Arteta, Fellaini, Cahill, Piennar, Neville and Bilyaletdinov, so it wasn't just because there was no competition for places at the time. I also felt we didn't know what his best position was. I always liked him playing further forward as he had that extra bit of quality, and when he was fit he was an absolute athlete. Remember a MOM performance from him there in a 3-1 home win against United in which he scored our third goal. A couple of MU mates of mine were really impressed with Rodwell that day and even joked about buying him.

I really don't think he was that over hyped by our fans at all. As a kid he was probably the best player in the country in his age group and expectations were high. But it wasn't just Everton who held him in high regard. We (the club or the fans) don't pick the national youth and older age teams and it was clear that they rated him too.

Sadly from the age of 18 he was besieged by injuries which have hampered him all his career. So the majority of the playing time that should have seen him develop into a top class footballer was actually spent on the treatment table. It was very sad but, from memory, not many were disappointed when he was sold to City for a decent fee, as we knew by then that he was unlikely to come good.

To read the posts in here you'd think we were dealing with a Franny Jeffers mark 2. The lad could have gone on to be a top top player for us, at a time we had a group of players together capable of challenging for trophies. The fact that injuries put a stop to that seems to be celebrated by some on here and I can't understand that thinking.
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Wasn’t he a late sub in that United game?
 
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