Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Eidean]

They have to go after the evil people that are attacking them, but i want no innocent people being killed.

Some people here not all just one or two or three at least, did subtly imply to me that the October 7th 2023 attacks were justified.

With all due respect mate, I’m not arsed what others have said in this thread as that’s not what I asked. I’ve stayed out of Israel-Palestine threads as it’s toxic.

Not really answered the question again so I suppose we’ll just leave it there.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

With all due respect mate, I’m not arsed what others have said in this thread as that’s not what I asked. I’ve stayed out of Israel-Palestine threads as it’s toxic.

Not really answered the question again so I suppose we’ll just leave it there.

I can't justify any killing of innocents. I only want the Hamas people to be killed.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

You guys just keep throwing more fuel on the fire, make it stop.

 

[Eidean]

I can't justify any killing of innocents. I only want the Hamas people to be killed.

Yep got that mate, that’s not what was asked though.

Like I said, we’ll leave it there as you’re not going to answer.

That’s enough for me in this thread, got enough to deal with in the Ukraine thread.

 

[RAFUH]

I can't justify any killing of innocents. I only want the Hamas people to be killed.

So why not call out the Israeli government for their callous disregard for civilians? You have no problem calling out Hamas.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

So why not call out the Israeli government for their callous disregard for civilians? You have no problem calling out Hamas.

I don't believe that to be true though. I believe that Israel do their best to try and only target Hamas members.

 

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[RAFUH]

I don't believe that to be true though. I believe that Israel do their best to try and only target Hamas members.

Good example of the ostrich effect - Cognitive bias to avoid unpleasant realties

As of 10 December 2024, over 46,000 people – 44,786 Palestinian and 1,706 Israeli – have been reported killed in the Israel–Hamas war, as well as 141–156 journalists and media workers, 120 academics, and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, a number that includes 179 employees of UNRWA.

This doesn't even include all the injured and starving women and kids who've done nothing, but be born on a certain piece of land.

So the Israeli government doesn't appear (to the unbiased) to be trying very hard or at all. A lot of talk, little to no action to back up "only targeting Hamas"

But, I'll leave it. You have well established your bias in this thread. My two cents/pence or reiteration of facts are unlikely to make an impact. It makes me very sad for you really.

 

[NeroCeasar]

Some people here not all just one or two or three at least, did subtly imply to me that the October 7th 2023 attacks were justified.

Name them

 

[Zatara]

Yourself included as you are not debating. You are providing "sound bites". You don't reply to nor answer honest questions within the discussion.

It is possible for both sides to be evil or behave in an evil manor. Just as it is possible for neither side to have moral high ground. And I say this with respect to the Hamas and the Israeli government.

*already regretting posting in here

So why not call out the Israeli government for their callous disregard for civilians? You have no problem calling out Hamas.

So @Cork Evertonian is posting "sound bites" ?

Are they not factual statements? Interesting as no one is able to debate them as being untrue.

Solely accusations of him (and other logical posters) being "racist" and "anti-muslim" also with this beautifully biased and disgusting thread title for the only democratic country in the region where all kinds of people live together...

Be they:
GAY -- Executed in Palestine
LESBIAN -- Executed in Palestine
TRANS -- None in Palestine
Those with different beliefs -- HAHAHA

Gays for Palestine say the brainwashed who would be executed on arrival in Gaza.

The posters in this very thread would be gleely murdered should they throw out some of their views in the street over there.

There is NO DEBATE in this particular thread, pure hatred towards any logical and rational views which are anti-terror. It is a mob of Israel hating, clueless and brainwashed individuals all happy to insult fellow humans....while believing they are on the side of the 'just and true'.

In this thread you have persons who make constructive valid viewpoints who are then deemed to be, I paraphrase; "racist and "child murderers"...by the 'nice guys'.

This is not debate. This is hatred.

You have posted;

"So why not call out the Israeli government for their callous disregard for civilians? You have no problem calling out Hamas"

-- "CALLOUS DISREGARD FOR CIVILIANS"

Are these the same "civilians" that are part of the Hamas terror group? No? How do you tell the difference, is it the ones in hospitals or those holding hands with children who are/arent Hamas terrorists?

Perhaps its the same "civilians" cheering the mass rape and execution of innocent Israeli and foreign peaceful innocents? Could it be the "civilians" who have assisted in harbouring those kidnapped innocents?

Maybe you are referring to the "civilians" who are hiding weapons caches in and under their homes, as was also done in Lebanon? These "civilians" who have ample opportunity to direct Israeli forces to where the hostages are being held -- before they are assassinated.

Alternatively, are you referring to the "civilians" who are murdering their own people in Palestine and blaming Israel? Or those brainwashing children to want to fight Israeli's and martyr themselves, those...lets call them 'school teachers'.

Perhaps the "civilian" doctors and nurses who are claiming that Israel are murdering their 'patients' and that there are no tunnels in and under the hospitals they work in?

These so called "civilians" have to be captured, grouped together and the IDF as well as SHIN BET have to do anything necessary to obtain the information of:

A: Which of them is Hamas ?
B: Where are the remaining hostages ?

If these "civilians" are not giving up this information then clearly they are complicit.

 

[NeroCeasar]

So @Cork Evertonian is posting "sound bites" ?

Are they not factual statements? Interesting as no one is able to debate them as being untrue.

Solely accusations of him (and other logical posters) being "racist" and "anti-muslim" also with this beautifully biased and disgusting thread title for the only democratic country in the region where all kinds of people live together...

Be they:
GAY -- Executed in Palestine
LESBIAN -- Executed in Palestine
TRANS -- None in Palestine
Those with different beliefs -- HAHAHA

Gays for Palestine say the brainwashed who would be executed on arrival in Gaza.

The posters in this very thread would be gleely murdered should they throw out some of their views in the street over there.

There is NO DEBATE in this particular thread, pure hatred towards any logical and rational views which are anti-terror. It is a mob of Israel hating, clueless and brainwashed individuals all happy to insult fellow humans....while believing they are on the side of the 'just and true'.

In this thread you have persons who make constructive valid viewpoints who are then deemed to be, I paraphrase; "racist and "child murderers"...by the 'nice guys'.

This is not debate. This is hatred.

You have posted;

"So why not call out the Israeli government for their callous disregard for civilians? You have no problem calling out Hamas"

-- "CALLOUS DISREGARD FOR CIVILIANS"

Are these the same "civilians" that are part of the Hamas terror group? No? How do you tell the difference, is it the ones in hospitals or those holding hands with children who are/arent Hamas terrorists?

Perhaps its the same "civilians" cheering the mass rape and execution of innocent Israeli and foreign peaceful innocents? Could it be the "civilians" who have assisted in harbouring those kidnapped innocents?

Maybe you are referring to the "civilians" who are hiding weapons caches in and under their homes, as was also done in Lebanon? These "civilians" who have ample opportunity to direct Israeli forces to where the hostages are being held -- before they are assassinated.

Alternatively, are you referring to the "civilians" who are murdering their own people in Palestine and blaming Israel? Or those brainwashing children to want to fight Israeli's and martyr themselves, those...lets call them 'school teachers'.

Perhaps the "civilian" doctors and nurses who are claiming that Israel are murdering their 'patients' and that there are no tunnels in and under the hospitals they work in?

These so called "civilians" have to be captured, grouped together and the IDF as well as SHIN BET have to do anything necessary to obtain the information of:

A: Which of them is Hamas ?
B: Where are the remaining hostages ?

If these "civilians" are not giving up this information then clearly they are complicit.

TLDR
He is justifying the killing of 40,000 people

 

[Zatara]

Good example of the ostrich effect - Cognitive bias to avoid unpleasant realties

As of 10 December 2024, over 46,000 people – 44,786 Palestinian and 1,706 Israeli – have been reported killed in the Israel–Hamas war, as well as 141–156 journalists and media workers, 120 academics, and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, a number that includes 179 employees of UNRWA.

This doesn't even include all the injured and starving women and kids who've done nothing, but be born on a certain piece of land.

So the Israeli government doesn't appear (to the unbiased) to be trying very hard or at all. A lot of talk, little to no action to back up "only targeting Hamas"

But, I'll leave it. You have well established your bias in this thread. My two cents/pence or reiteration of facts are unlikely to make an impact. It makes me very sad for you really.

How many of those persons you have chosen to identity as "innocents" are actually working for, with or are Hamas?

I wonder as you mention, journalists and UNWRA employees...well known to be working and have been working with Hamas.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to write this towards a poster here in @Cork Evertonian who had been nothing if not polite in comparison to others...

"You have well established your bias in this thread. My two cents/pence or reiteration of facts are unlikely to make an impact. It makes me very sad for you really"


Im sure if i posted something like this to you (as i have done previously to mirror your own hatred of Trump) I would be thread banned.

So i wont. But this shows actual BIAS.

 

[RAFUH]

Oh dear. I think I triggered someone

 

[Zatara]

Oh dear. I think I triggered someone

@Cork Evertonian case closed.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Well, this attempt on a president will be fun....