Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[WA Toffee]

I wouldn't say it's an acceptable outcome either

You should have just stopped there mate.

Taking away all the whataboutery and false equivalence, that is the crux of the matter.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

You should have just stopped there mate.

Taking away all the whataboutery and false equivalence, that is the crux of the matter.

You asked me a question and made a reasonable point, but you were also trying to get me into a position where i call Israel evil.

Hamas is evil not Israel. Whatever has happened Hamas has brought us to this point.

 

[WA Toffee]

You asked me a question and made a reasonable point, but you were also trying to get me into a position where i call Israel evil.

Hamas is evil not Israel. Whatever has happened Hamas has brought us to this point.

Not trying to get you to claim that mate. The point I am trying to get to is that most posters are simply saying they don't agree with Israel's methods in the current situation. Rather than discuss that point, you appear to be constantly deflecting by arguing against claims that no one is making.

Accept that no one here is supporting Hamas.
Accept that no one is claiming Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself.

Those are not the discussion points. The discussion point is - Israel's current goal is the destruction of Hamas. Is Israel justified in killing tens of thousands of civilians, displacing over a million more and razing a country to the ground in their pursuit of those goals? I would say no, it is not.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Just go to 18 minutes and 38 seconds in. Whoever is pro or anti Israel or whatever you need to hear this man out. I would agree with 99% of what he said.

 

[Eidean]

Just go to 18 minutes and 38 seconds in. Whoever is pro or anti Israel or whatever you need to hear this man out. I would agree with 99% of what he said.

I’m never in this thread for obvious reasons but I’d really like to see your reply to the question you were asked above

 

[Toffeeslam]

I’m never in this thread for obvious reasons but I’d really like to see your reply to the question you were asked above

Don’t bother with him mate.

When ever he gets asked questions that questions anything Israel has done he refuses to answer it

Instead he goes on a tangent in a blinkered skewed one eyed pro-Israeli propaganda drive.

Doesn’t like inconvenient truths and is a bit of a racist/anti-Muslim bigot

Don’t bother mate

 

[Prevenger17]

I’m never in this thread for obvious reasons but I’d really like to see your reply to the question you were asked above

You won't get a lick of sense off that numpty. Shtick him on ignore

 

[Bluerover]

Comrades, the situation in Palestine and Israel is deeply troubling and reflects the consequences of imperialist aggression and exploitation. The oppression of the Palestinian people by the Israeli regime is a stark reminder of the destructive power of capitalism and colonialism. The suffering of the Palestinian masses, their displacement, and their struggle for liberation are clear signs of the injustice that thrives under the boot of imperialism.

We, as revolutionaries, must stand in solidarity with the oppressed, for the fight of the Palestinian people is the fight for dignity, freedom, and self-determination. The imperialist forces that fuel this conflict seek to maintain division and chaos, but we know that true peace and justice can only come when imperialism is destroyed and the working class and oppressed peoples unite across borders.

Let us not forget: the path to peace lies in the dismantling of systems of oppression, in the struggle for equality, and in the solidarity between all peoples who yearn for a future free of war, exploitation, and suffering.

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Sorry mate I'm not a revolutionary But I am for peace

 

[Tommy.]

Honestly, at this stage I feel like the CE has just been set up to fail.

If letting the serial satsuma back in wasn't enough of a clue, letting this bellend (amongst others) espouse their hateful rhetoric freely is confirmation enough.

 

[NeilMorepies]

 

[Toffeepot]

Hamas is evil not Israel

This did not begin on Oct 7th
You clearly don't know any of the history

 

[Cork Evertonian]

True words here if the cap fits then wear it.

If you are not saying release the hostages in 2025 you are a terrorist.

btw How does supporting the only country in the Middle East where Jewish people, Muslim people, Christian people and LGBT people live in as much peace and harmony as they are allowed, instead of supporting a terrorist organisation make one a bad person?

 

[Cork Evertonian]

Here are the word of former Irish government minister Alan Shatter. He calls people like some of you thugs basically.

 

[Eidean]

Here are the word of former Irish government minister Alan Shatter. He calls people like some of you thugs basically.

Hello lad, happy new year, not sure if you seen my reply before so thought I’d try again.

Not trying to get you to claim that mate. The point I am trying to get to is that most posters are simply saying they don't agree with Israel's methods in the current situation. Rather than discuss that point, you appear to be constantly deflecting by arguing against claims that no one is making.

Accept that no one here is supporting Hamas.
Accept that no one is claiming Israel doesn't have a right to defend itself.

Those are not the discussion points. The discussion point is - Israel's current goal is the destruction of Hamas. Is Israel justified in killing tens of thousands of civilians, displacing over a million more and razing a country to the ground in their pursuit of those goals? I would say no, it is not.

Can you answer the question in bold please?

 

[Blue 1]

Hello lad, happy new year, not sure if you seen my reply before so thought I’d try again.



Can you answer the question in bold please?

You'll get more joy trying to kick water uphill, mert.