Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[d34noj]

So how would you deal with a radicalised youth?

Do you concede there is a direct correlation between the radicalising of Palestinian youth and what Isreal is doing in Gaza?

Alternative education mate.

As for a correlation, of course - would you concede antisemitic teaching in schools/terrorism summercamps plays a part?

Like I say, they're as bad as each other.

 

[NeroCeasar]

Like I say, they're as bad as each other.

There is no two siding the destruction of Gaza and the killing of children.

 

[d34noj]

There is no two siding the destruction of Gaza and the killing of children.

Of course there is. Gaza wouldn't have been destroyed if Hamas hadn't attacked on October 7th, holed up in a hospital and fired rockets from schools.

As many children wouldn't have died if they weren't used as human shields by Hamas.

See, 2 sides.

 

[WA Toffee]

There is no two siding the destruction of Gaza and the killing of children.

So you're saying you support Hamas killing Israeli women and children?

It's pretty easy this strawman style of discussion isn't it? Obviously a stupid and lazy style of discussion (and also very unproductive), but pretty easy nonetheless.

 

[NeroCeasar]

Of course there is. Gaza wouldn't have been destroyed if Hamas hadn't attacked on October 7th, holed up in a hospital and fired rockets from schools.

As many children wouldn't have died if they weren't used as human shields by Hamas.

See, 2 sides.

Sure, ignore the previous 50 years and excuse everything that has been done by hiding behind a narrative that excuses the murder and maiming of kids in the pursuit of a political goal.

 

[NeroCeasar]

So you're saying you support Hamas killing Israeli women and children?

It's pretty easy this strawman style of discussion isn't it? Obviously a stupid and lazy style of discussion (and also very unproductive), but pretty easy nonetheless.

That's the thing, absolutely nobody has attempted to two side the atrocities committed by Hamas.

 

[d34noj]

Sure, ignore the previous 50 years and excuse everything that has been done by hiding behind a narrative that excuses the murder and maiming of kids in the pursuit of a political goal.

Nobody is ignoring it, the very simple fact of the matter is the attack on 7th October started a war in which Hamas has willingly sacrificed civilians in order to sway public opinion to facilitate a ceasefire - a ceasefire they broke themselves.

This is a simple case of cause & effect. All they had to do was not vote into power a radical militant group into power and come to a peaceful solution - you can't cry about losing a war you started yourselves.

 

[tsubaki]

Nobody is ignoring it, the very simple fact of the matter is the attack on 7th October started a war in which Hamas has willingly sacrificed civilians in order to sway public opinion to facilitate a ceasefire - a ceasefire they broke themselves.

This is a simple case of cause & effect. All they had to do was not vote into power a radical militant group into power and come to a peaceful solution - you can't cry about losing a war you started yourselves.

Almost exactly the same can be said about the Israeli government, albeit with much more justification.

 

[d34noj]

Almost exactly the same can be said about the Israeli government, albeit with much more justification.

Like I've said from the off mate, I'm aware. I'm just adding some perspective to the echo chamber of this thread.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

 

[ChesterBlue]

Read this.

If you actually read my post you’d have read the below:

“The below link is directly quoting a paywalled Haaretz article”

Now I have my doubts that Haaretz is a wildly pro Hamas news source

 

[ChesterBlue]

So you're saying you support Hamas killing Israeli women and children?

It's pretty easy this strawman style of discussion isn't it? Obviously a stupid and lazy style of discussion (and also very unproductive), but pretty easy nonetheless.

No one has ever said that in this thread you pathetic little bell. No one. Difference is, A. October 7th did not happen in a vacuum, and B. Israel is conducting a genocide in Gaza. If you want to cheer the murder of innocent women, children, journalists and aid workers go ahead, but say it with your chest and don’t try and moralise your support for a genocide.

I’m so done with people like you, and Cork, and d34 who just argue in awful faith, when you are blatantly just racists who love seeing brown children and women murdered.

 

[WA Toffee]

No one has ever said that in this thread you pathetic little bell. No one. Difference is, A. October 7th did not happen in a vacuum, and B. Israel is conducting a genocide in Gaza. If you want to cheer the murder of innocent women, children, journalists and aid workers go ahead, but say it with your chest and don’t try and moralise your support for a genocide.

I’m so done with people like you, and Cork, and d34 who just argue in awful faith, when you are blatantly just racists who love seeing brown children and women murdered.

Wow, calm down cowboy. Try reading it again slowly. You may find I am actually ridiculing them, not supporting them

 

[irishblue11]

Like I've said from the off mate, I'm aware. I'm just adding some perspective to the echo chamber of this thread.

Thing is in all reality you're just an Israeli apologist, perspective my arse. You're here to justify a genocide.

 

[ChesterBlue]

Wow, calm down cowboy. Try reading it again slowly. You may find I am actually ridiculing them, not supporting them

Your recent posts do not read like that, but fine.