tsubaki
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“Civilized society” killed them though?
Again, I think you are confusing the IDF with a military force where there are consequences for killing kids deliberately.
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“Civilized society” killed them though?
Again, I think you are confusing the IDF with a military force where there are consequences for killing kids deliberately.
They ceased that supposedly since the invasion at US request.
Peanuts compared to how much Israel have received toward their genocidal agenda though.
Hamas want Israel to not exist, and Israel and much of their Zionist supporters globally want Palestine to not exist, but only one has the power to do it, and are doing it.
This is no equality in anything where this conflict is concerned, by any metric
Beyond the execution of children they are deliberately inducing a famine, which amounts to the same thing.Sadly, I disagree - there’s been plenty of opportunities for the IDF to deal with soldiers who target civilians, plenty to deal with those who target kids. Doing so would enforce military discipline and be a powerful argument against those who argue the IDF either doesn’t care or does it deliberately. It would also have massively helped with the ICJ case, which to a great extent relies on the absence of effective domestic law enforcement of breaches of human rights law to justify an international response.
They’ve taken none of those opportunities. For the past twenty years, children have been executed by Israeli personnel, with Israeli personnel reporting the crime and nothing is done:
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As soon as Amos Goldberg, an expert in genocide and holocaust studies called the current Israeli strategy a genocide, there should have been no further argument. He clearly isn't antisemitic, is an expert, Lives in the region and studies the subject.
Accountability is apparently for everyone other than Israel
Not my words here but it's a valid point i reckon.
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d34noj
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Mate I 100% see where you're coming from, however I don't think they're killing kids deliberately - and I don't believe the figures are remotely close to what Hamas are reporting.
Civilians are dying because Hamas are using houses, schools, mosques and hospitals to fire rockets from. This is documented, and admitted by Hamas themselves.
This isn't rocket science mate, the death toll is greater because human shields are being used - which in itself is forbidden by Protocol 1 of the Geneva Convention, therefore a war crime.
d34noj
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That wasn't the point though mate. The point is Al Jazeera is Hamas affiliated.
libi
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Forget rules based order or morale army or some similar garbage being spouted around by "esteemed" world leaders.
"Might is right" is how this world functions and it never gonna change. And we all know on whose side might is in this conflict.
In some way you need to admire Israel, country of less than 10 million pissing on entire Middle East and wielding so much power and influence on this world.
d34noj
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Eh?
You know the rest of the Arab world hates Palestine don't you? How on earth are they 'pissing on the entire Middle East'?
libi
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I utterly doubt rest of Arab world hate Palestinians and support Israelis in them massacring them but if you say so.........
They not supporting them cause Israel in the past beat a hell out of them (Egypt, Syria, Jordan etc...) several times over and Arab armies absolutely suck. Hell, paramilitaries like Hezbollah, Hamas, Hts in Syria, ISIS were thousand times more motivated and effective than actual regular armies of Arab states.
Syrian army demonstrated that quite well few weeks ago, run away on first sign of danger.
And of course America being lapdog to Israel where Republicans and Democrats actually compete who gonna kiss Israeli ass more.
Anyway just imagine if for example Serbia starts doing this against Muslims in Kosovo (again).
I'm sure American reaction would be the same as now with Israel. Almost 50 000 dead in tiny city of Gaza, half of casualties of entire Yugoslavs war in the 1990s already.
For as long as the hostages are being held captive there will be no peace.
The only solution to this is release of the hostages and recognition of Israel's right to exist as a state.
It doesn't look like any of these things will be happening anytime soon, so it's very much a case of as you were sadly.
The only solution to this is release of the hostages and recognition of Israel's right to exist as a state.
It doesn't look like any of these things will be happening anytime soon, so it's very much a case of as you were sadly.
Comrade Detective
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I am new to this part of the forum and perhaps naive to the discussion, but are you absolving Israel of any agency here?
They were victims of an attempted genocide
Israel are now committing Genocide
Everything else is waffle because those they are killing have a right to their homeland too
Agree with the first part but I'll never admire them.
It isn't difficult to wield power using F16s, Advanced artillery and tanks on a region that has nothing with which to counter it. On top of that orchestrating a famine. Utter scum
Are we back to that? I thought we agreed that media wasn't to be entirely trusted all round. You state Al Jazeera but they are nowhere near as big in the West as those Networks spouting Israeli propaganda. Inviting the same Israeli apologists on for a round of antisemitic accusations despite having caught them in a lie the first time round. The images and videos we see with our own eyes are enough. They are for me anyway. They should be for you too
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