Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[davek]

Yes. But the fencing is a type of second front. It will blow hot and coldish depending on how they read the situation in Gaza and the world.It will be interesting to see how much determination, those that have been brought back into the IDF, have.

 

[ramacca]

The US Empire inseperable from Netanyahu. More US missiles will reinbdown on Gaza.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Neither are the people pretending any of this started on 7th October

If you want people to stop being killed there first needs to be a diplomatic solution.

 

[davek]

The US Empire inseperable from Netanyahu. More US missiles will reinbdown on Gaza.

That's why it was a huge pisstake today with Blinken *asking* for a 'Humanitarian pause' and then getting told 'no' by Netanyahu.

The Yanks own Israel. Lock stock and barrel. The Israeli cabinet can't go for a piss without the Yanks say so.

If Washington wants a 'pause' or a ceasefire it can get them....they don't want one. Which is why that 'kin spineless get Starmer is also taking the piss telling everyone here that he's in lock step with Biden and other nations with influence on calling for a pause rather than ceasefire.

The whole thing is just a macabre dance to hand Israel the time to 'cleanse' Gaza and colonise all or most of it.

 

[ramacca]

Europeam government are falling over themselves to be more draconian than the next government.



The march of fascist jackboots down the Champs Elysees, French style this time, gaining speed.

 

[ramacca]

That's why it was a huge pisstake today with Blinken *asking* for a 'Humanitarian pause' and then getting told 'no' by Netanyahu.

The Yanks own Israel. Lock stock and barrel. The Israeli cabinet can't go for a piss without the Yanks say so.

If Washington wants a 'pause' or a ceasefire it can get them....they don't want one. Which is why that 'kin spineless get Starmer is also taking the piss telling everyone here that he's in lock step with Biden and other nations with influence on calling for a pause rather than ceasefire.

The whole thing is just a macabre dance to hand Israel the time to 'cleanse' Gaza and colonise all or most of it.

We're witnessing the Spectre of Fascism hanging over Europe, yet again. And this time the scapegoats are Muslims



Hitler was democratically elected in Germany in the 1930s. Maybe Starmer will change the name of the Labour zosrty.

 

[dublinbluenose]

That's why it was a huge pisstake today with Blinken *asking* for a 'Humanitarian pause' and then getting told 'no' by Netanyahu.

The Yanks own Israel. Lock stock and barrel. The Israeli cabinet can't go for a piss without the Yanks say so.

If Washington wants a 'pause' or a ceasefire it can get them....they don't want one. Which is why that 'kin spineless get Starmer is also taking the piss telling everyone here that he's in lock step with Biden and other nations with influence on calling for a pause rather than ceasefire.

The whole thing is just a macabre dance to hand Israel the time to 'cleanse' Gaza and colonise all or most of it.

Biden has made a really poor judgment call, he could've stopped this on day one with a visit to Gaza. It's going to cost him his re-election.

 

[Blue 1]

Europeam government are falling over themselves to be more draconian than the next government.



The march of fascist jackboots down the Champs Elysees, French style this time, gaining speed.

FFS. Antizionism is a legitimate political position.

 

[ramacca]

Sinn Féin President and leader of the Party in the Republic has said the position of the Israeli ambassador is now untenable.

Israeli ambassador's position 'untenable' - McDonald

Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald has said the Israeli ambassador's position is "now untenable" and that the ambassador should "no longer enjoy diplomatic status in Ireland while Israel refuses the imperative for ceasefires and as the suffering and death toll grow".

www.rte.ie

As posted previously Israel exports an estimated €5Bn to Ireland in 2022, whereas we exported something like €2 Bn.

Can't see it happening though and Deputy Taoiseach has ruled it out - we can have diplomatic relations without agreeing with a country's policies - Russia springs to mind. Their ambassador also made threatening noises a couple of months ago.

Any Israeli Ambassador will know of the relationship between the Republican movement, the PLO and other Palestinian movements and the ANCs fight against apartheid. He will have thought because Ireland is being listened to by the US, and getting closer to them in some ways, they were a pushover. He will have learnt, don't mess with the Irish, as will the Russian Ambassador.

Ireland has a proud history of fighting Apartheid.

 

[ramacca]

FFS. Antizionism is a legitimate political position.

So was the religious practice of Judaism in 1930s Germany until a certain fella got elected and got hold of the reins of power.

 

[peteblue]

Why should I feel ashamed that their is a protest planned for sat and not Sunday?

If it’s Saturday it’s fine, no arguments from me. If they interrupt Sunday then a pox on their houses……

 

[davek]

We're witnessing the Spectre of Fascism hanging over Europe, yet again. And this time the scapegoats are Muslims



Hitler was democratically elected in Germany in the 1930s. Maybe Starmer will change the name of the Labour zosrty.

The German Greens have been utterly shocking.

They must have put environmental politics back decades with their war mongering over Ukraine and now throwing their hand in on Israel.

 

[peteblue]

I think you're being over emotive for the sake of scoring a point.
I've worked many a remembrance day in amongst the great and good (sic), civic and military. To a man, or woman, all the old servicemen I spoke with, who told me tales of the Somme and Dunkirk, kept quiet reflection on the horrors of war, and you could see that in their faces. They spoke about freedom from oppression, why they fought for a just cause against the nazis, and how they never wanted to see the same hatred for people that the nazis showed.
And yet, here we are, watching it live on the telly. By 'Israelis'.
I think those who fought in the last world war would understand and support anything to quell a repeat of what they went through.

My father served in the navy and was on the HMS Duke of York when it sank the Sharnhorst, my grandfather died on a ship on the Malta run, all of my uncles served in the army during WW2. They never spoke about it really. My mate served in the Falklands and doesn’t speak of it. But for me, and I imagine millions of others there is a link to military deaths on our behalf. It’s remembrance and respect. It’s never normally interrupted and rightly so. So if it’s on Saturday I personally have no problem, if it happens on Sunday then I believe it will turn the country against them…so let’s hope it doesn’t happen…..

 

[davek]

Biden has made a really poor judgment call, he could've stopped this on day one with a visit to Gaza. It's going to cost him his re-election.

He wants it to happen because his bigger play is to get aid through Congress for Kyiv as a joint Israeli-Ukraine package.

 

[dublinbluenose]

He wants it to happen because his bigger play is to get aid through Congress for Kyiv as a joint Israeli-Ukraine package.

To what end, there's no votes in that. There is no credible Democratic alternative candidate to Biden and no time to blood one.

He's gifting the next administration to Trump, presuming he can avoid jail. Not that those votes will head to Trump but enough voters who probably just wont vote for Biden.

There is a fascist boot thundering across a good portion of the free world at the moment.