Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[Toffeeslam]

Right.... then turkey lost that land in a war.

So actually they don't.

Spoken like a true colonist

international law contradicts this

 

[Deleted member 48881]

armin and Zat are the worst when it comes to politics really...

 

[Jimishorts]

Extreme Jews

 

[Tubey]

Right.... then turkey lost that land in a war.

So actually they don't.

Look up Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention please.

 

[Ollie d]

Lets just ignore there being a huge amount of rocks on the floor in the mosque.

Then lets ignore the other rocks outside the mosque which had been hurled at people and later the police (once they were called).

Whether thats a mosque, church or synagogue they knew what they were doing.

Ok what would you consider an appropriate response to this? I've not seen evidence they were hurled at anyone but go ahead. Is it throwing flashbangs inside a place of worship (during Ramadan, no less) and firing rubber bullets at people?

 

[toffee82]

Lolling a lot here

I preferred the "I like him" but.

 

[PhilM]

I'm pretty certain the pic posted is complete bollocks. Lewis Hamilton tweeted it yesterday and had to take it down straight away.

Palestine hasn't ever been a country, and hasn't owned any of the land.

Israel should be showing far more retraint IMO but lets not make the Palestinian and arab world authorities out to be angels in this confilct.

Israel did agree to a 2 state solution onyl for the arab world to start a war with them

It isn't. This is the West Bank, from the BBC via B'Tselem - a Jewish non-profit organisation.

 

[coollino]

Coming in with Islamiphobic views, supporting Israel and then leaving with an anti-Semitic view is something I didn't expect; even with how confused @Zatara gets.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Yes I hate the religion. Doesn't mean I hate the person.

hate the religion? I bet you know nothing about it other than what the express, mail, sun has printed .

Having gone through lots of that religion it’s has it’s parts people would find abhorrent but so does Judaism and Christianity so I presume you hate them too ?

Anyway I find that I hate the religion not the person weird unless you hate all religion.

 

[coollino]

Do all extreme Jews have red pens?

 

[PhilM]

Do all extreme Jews have red pens?

Surely it stipulates in the Talmud that they must have a red pen? Not just a biro either - a gel pen.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Surely it stipulates in the Talmud that they must have a red pen? Not just a biro either - a gel pen.

Well you learn something new everyday

 

[coollino]

Surely it stipulates in the Talmud that they must have a red pen? Not just a biro either - a gel pen.

Might go open a pen shop in golders green

 

[BigMick]

Regarding the map posted above by @PhilM - here's a copy the the map of the West Bank drawn by PA president Mahmoud Abbas of the offer made to him by the then Israeli PM Ehud Olmert in 2008.



The small areas marked with pale blue dots show the 6.3% of land (3 areas) the Israeli's would have retained. Of course there were strings attached and Israel wanted security guarantees which, as the PA had been ousted from Gaza by Hamas the year before, would have been difficult to satisfy. Hamas were not only against any deal but against negotiations taking place.
Whatever Abbas's reasons for turning it down - and I still had time for him at that point - this was certainly a missed opportunity.

Incidentally, the Jerusalem solution proposed by Olmert at that time is a good starting point for solving that particular problem.

 

[Blue 1]

Regarding the map posted above by @PhilM - here's a copy the the map of the West Bank drawn by PA president Mahmoud Abbas of the offer made to him by the then Israeli PM Ehud Olmert in 2008.

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The small areas marked with pale blue dots show the 6.3% of land (3 areas) the Israeli's would have retained. Of course there were strings attached and Israel wanted security guarantees which, as the PA had been ousted from Gaza by Hamas the year before, would have been difficult to satisfy. Hamas were not only against any deal but against negotiations taking place.
Whatever Abbas's reasons for turning it down - and I still had time for him at that point - this was certainly a missed opportunity.

Incidentally, the Jerusalem solution proposed by Olmert at that time is a good starting point for solving that particular problem.

I might be thinking of Ehud Barak's offer at Camp David but I think the major stumbling blocks were Jerusalem - the Palestinians were offered Abu Dis as their capital, which lies outside the Jerusalem municipality - and, as usual again, the right of return. I think the land swap being offered was a bit of desert with no continuity with either Gaza or the West Bank as well. But without going back and reading again I can't remember exactly which Ehud offered what. I remember at the time thinking of of both that they'd never be acceptable to any Palestinian leadership and they must have known it. I always thought the offers were made in bad faith knowing it would allow them to present the Palestinian side as the obstacle to peace.