You’ve got to on a wind up surely ? Or extremely thick
Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state
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tsubaki
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Very little of it does, and of course it’s that sort of thing which piles up the explosives before someone tosses a match on it.
I mean what has been repeatedly done to Daoud Nassar and his family (who areperhaps some of the great people of our times) should be all over mainstream news, but it isn’t:
Palestinian Christian family counters harassment with openness
By Emma Halgren (*)
Tent of Nations seeks to spread nonviolence in midst of Israeli-Palestinian conflict
"We refuse to hate. No one can force us to hate. It's easy to say; difficult to live, of course. For us, it is very difficult."
www.ncronline.org
Tent of Nations - Wikipedia
That’s the reality of what people have to put up with, for years. Not all of them deal with it as the Nassar family have.
Toffeeslam
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Zat the Israeli forces tried to enter the Al Aqsa mosque during Ramadan and during prayers which started this whole chain of events.
Also the dubious eviction of Arabs from East Jerusalem by extremists settlers (you say that it belongs to settlers but that means nothing as Arab land have been confiscated and never returned to this day, and no law allows for Arabs to evict settlers from land that they rightfully own) so the Israelis started all of this so Netanyahu can stay in power.
your so wrong Zat both factually and morally
Just awful to see. Doesnt matter which side you are on..
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BigMick
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A lot of truth in that story!
When in early April Mahmoud Abbas revealed how he had talked tough to the head of Israeli Intelligence in one of their regular meetings I dismissed his comments on the Palestinian Elections thread as electioneering - which it was. However, there was one thing which rang true: it's said that he shouted at the head of Shin Bet, "Don't talk to me about Hamas - you created them!" This echoed the words of Yasser Arafat who frequently referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”
To understand what they mean you have to go back to the early 1980s when Israel helped to finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the PLO and the Fatah party, led by Arafat - a classic manoeuvre to divide and rule. That movement eventually became Hamas. However, to say that Israel created Hamas is an exaggeration - the movement would have coalesced into a party eventually, but Israel's contribution undoubtedly hastened it..
More recently, in 2019, Qatar, the country that provides the majority of the funding that enables the Hamas government to function - civil service etc - as well as money towards humanitarian relief, threatened to stop payments completely because it discovered huge sums of money were being 'misused' - corruption and weapons. Israel found out and persuaded the Qataris to continue and even increase their payments, which they did, thus propping up their disastrous government.
In return Israel were able to broker an unofficial 'period of quiet' with Hamas, which lasted right through to April when around 45 rockets were fired from Gaza.
It would be nice to think humanitarian concerns played a part in Israel's intervention, and probably they did partially, but the more immediate concern for Netanyahu was a desire to avoid the possibility of any escalation caused by the collapse of a functioning government, which would have led to chaos and an almost certain upsurge in violence.
Toffeeslam
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Sounds like Israeli uses Hamas as an excuse and cover for attacking Palestinians.
“Hamas are attacking let’s use this as an excuse to smash all the Palestinians”
So if Hamas ceases to exist what would be Israel excuse for land theft and human rights violations?
arminisgod
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I'm pretty certain the pic posted is complete bollocks. Lewis Hamilton tweeted it yesterday and had to take it down straight away.
Palestine hasn't ever been a country, and hasn't owned any of the land.
Israel should be showing far more retraint IMO but lets not make the Palestinian and arab world authorities out to be angels in this confilct.
Israel did agree to a 2 state solution onyl for the arab world to start a war with them
IDF seem to be systematically destroying the economy (whats left of it) and public infrastructure of Gaza.
Blowing major roads up along with Gaza's only functioning water treatment plant - they even bombed an ice cream shop yesterday.
Blowing major roads up along with Gaza's only functioning water treatment plant - they even bombed an ice cream shop yesterday.
The Arabs who now call themselves Palestinians have lived on that bit of land for millennia and own plenty of it and there are several good reasons why they rejected the 1947 partition plan, which among other things gave the majority of the most fertile land, the coastal plain and the Golan Heights - and indeed a majority of the land - to the Jews, who were the minority population by a decent bit.
That picture isn't bollocks, unfortunately, but again, you need to read the history of how it came to be like that.
larrygobfiend
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And that completes the nobhead bingo card
This is basically English people going to Wales and kicking the Welsh out of their tents.
tsubaki
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more like English people going to England and kicking the Welsh out
arminisgod
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It is bollocks. Lewis Hamilton had to take it down as legally its bollocks.
The state of Israel is t going away no matter what mad dreams the mullahs in Tehran think. And the rights and wrongs of how Israel was created isn't relevant.
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