Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[davek]

It may be this.

The IDF expresses sorrow at hitting a border crossing post but not for murdering 6,000 civilians.

The Kopites of international relations.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Will Israel need to prove any of this "we bombed the hospital and mosque as it was being used as a holding place for Hamas' weapons" or will the war crimes just be forgotten about? What's the point of international law otherwise?

 

[Blue 1]

You guys seem like reasonable, well balanced, informed and tolerant progressives. For example, the response below to a woman who was stabbed to death.



I have a couple of questions from things I keep seeing. Maybe you lot can enlighten me with your wisdom?

What does free Paliestine mean?
Has Paliestine ever been a country?
What borders and from when do you want?
What does this saying mean “from the river to the sea Paliestine must be free”, and would you say it?
What is Zionism? Which Zionists are bad? Do they control the media?

Just themes I see over and over that I would like to understand, so I can be as well informed as you guys.

None of them are difficult questions, nobody wants to respond to you because you're the thickest, most obnoxious poster I've encountered on this site in 15 years. You know the answers.

Free Palestine means end the occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza.

"Palestine" has never been a country in the strictest sense, but there have been a distinct Arab people living in that part of the world for millennia, enough to justify calling them a nation.

The 1967 "Green Line" is the generally accepted border for a future Palestinian state, although some land swaps are inevitable given the growth of settlements adjacent to Jerusalem like Ma'ale Adumim and Pisgat Ze'ev.

"From the river to the sea" means the destruction of Israel, as anyone who knows the geography of the region can tell. It's a horrible chant, and I'd be happy to never hear it again. I do believe that not all of those who chant it are aware of the connotations.

I've explained in a prior post what Zionism is, and which concept of zionism is bad. Zionists do not control the media, but it is fair to say their representation is disproportionate to their population. However, I would agree with anyone who tried to argue that ascribing this to nefarious means is antisemitic.


Feel free to respond to this with a middle finger, as that all I would've given anything you posted prior to putting you on ignore.

Now please crawl back under your stone, you supercilious weasel.

 

[davek]

Will Israel need to prove any of this "we bombed the hospital and mosque as it was being used as a holding place for Hamas' weapons" or will the war crimes just be forgotten about? What's the point of international law otherwise?

Palestinian lives are worthless. That's how they roll.

Anyone clamouring for the IDF to use 'appropriate force' (whatever that is) needs to look at how the Israeli state is set up: they enshrine race laws that confirm for society at large that the Palestinians are sub human.

They view the Palestinians the way Nazi Germany viewed Jews. Its as simple as that.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

None of them are difficult questions, nobody wants to respond to you because you're the thickest, most obnoxious poster I've encountered on this site in 15 years. You know the answers.

Free Palestine means end the occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza.

"Palestine" has never been a country in the strictest sense, but there have been a distinct Arab people living in that part of the world for millennia, enough to justify calling them a nation.

The 1967 "Green Line" is the generally accepted border for a future Palestinian state, although some land swaps are inevitable given the growth of settlements adjacent to Jerusalem like Ma'ale Adumim and Pisgat Ze'ev.

"From the river to the sea" means the destruction of Israel, as anyone who knows the geography of the region can tell. It's a horrible chant, and I'd be happy to never hear it again. I do believe that not all of those who chant it are aware of the connotations.

I've explained in a prior post what Zionism is, and which concept of zionism is bad. Zionists do not control the media, but it is fair to say their representation is disproportionate to their population. However, I would agree with anyone who tried to argue that ascribing this to nefarious means is antisemitic.


Feel free to respond to this with a middle finger, as that all I would've given anything you posted prior to putting you on ignore.

Now please crawl back under your stone, you supercilious weasel.

Wow. There's some stiff competition there.

The 'what would you do' argument / line of questioning is a fairly bad faith approach as well. The implication is the status quo is the way forward. Nor does it come from the position of engaging genuinely with the counter arguments.

But that's not what our man is looking for. Given away by the little dig about people hating at the end.

We all saw GrandOldTeam's post the other day. It was fairly clear. One person appears to struggle to comprehend it. Let them carry on.

 

[Toffeeslam]

You think Iran gives its population a say how its governed...but Israel doesnt.

Thats what your view is? Is this a joke?

Ive already posted several times on apartheid, feel free to search and see my links.



They choose not to answer what we ask.

Tells its own story and gives us the answer.

Stop deflecting and tell me why Israel is not an apartheid state

This is the third time I’ve asked you and you have come back with nothing

Instead of calling what’s said a joke provide me some argument that it isn’t and stop bringing in other countries into it

 

[Blue 1]

Wow. There's some stiff competition there.

Indeed.

 

[dCahill17]

None of them are difficult questions, nobody wants to respond to you because you're the thickest, most obnoxious poster I've encountered on this site in 15 years. You know the answers.

Free Palestine means end the occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza.

"Palestine" has never been a country in the strictest sense, but there have been a distinct Arab people living in that part of the world for millennia, enough to justify calling them a nation.

The 1967 "Green Line" is the generally accepted border for a future Palestinian state, although some land swaps are inevitable given the growth of settlements adjacent to Jerusalem like Ma'ale Adumim and Pisgat Ze'ev.

"From the river to the sea" means the destruction of Israel, as anyone who knows the geography of the region can tell. It's a horrible chant, and I'd be happy to never hear it again. I do believe that not all of those who chant it are aware of the connotations.

I've explained in a prior post what Zionism is, and which concept of zionism is bad. Zionists do not control the media, but it is fair to say their representation is disproportionate to their population. However, I would agree with anyone who tried to argue that ascribing this to nefarious means is antisemitic.


Feel free to respond to this with a middle finger, as that all I would've given anything you posted prior to putting you on ignore.

Now please crawl back under your stone, you supercilious weasel.

Not the worst answer, besides the personal insults.

Asking me to finger you is a bit weird so I’ll pass

 

[davek]

 

[tsubaki]

that man is an absolute disgrace

 

[Yarrgh]

None of them are difficult questions, nobody wants to respond to you because you're the thickest, most obnoxious poster I've encountered on this site in 15 years. You know the answers.

Free Palestine means end the occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza.

"Palestine" has never been a country in the strictest sense, but there have been a distinct Arab people living in that part of the world for millennia, enough to justify calling them a nation.

The 1967 "Green Line" is the generally accepted border for a future Palestinian state, although some land swaps are inevitable given the growth of settlements adjacent to Jerusalem like Ma'ale Adumim and Pisgat Ze'ev.

"From the river to the sea" means the destruction of Israel, as anyone who knows the geography of the region can tell. It's a horrible chant, and I'd be happy to never hear it again. I do believe that not all of those who chant it are aware of the connotations.

I've explained in a prior post what Zionism is, and which concept of zionism is bad. Zionists do not control the media, but it is fair to say their representation is disproportionate to their population. However, I would agree with anyone who tried to argue that ascribing this to nefarious means is antisemitic.


Feel free to respond to this with a middle finger, as that all I would've given anything you posted prior to putting you on ignore.

Now please crawl back under your stone, you supercilious weasel.

those are some pretty solid answers right there.

 

[davek]

that man is an absolute disgrace

Utter 'kin scumbag.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Wow. There's some stiff competition there.

The 'what would you do' argument / line of questioning is a fairly bad faith approach as well. The implication is the status quo is the way forward. Nor does it come from the position of engaging genuinely with the counter arguments.

But that's not what our man is looking for. Given away by the little dig about people hating at the end.

We all saw GrandOldTeam's post the other day. It was fairly clear. One person appears to struggle to comprehend it. Let them carry on.

If GOT is entering the arena, the state of it is not good.

 

[ramacca]

There is talk of the US urging a further delay in the ground operation. Hopefully, it's to organise a negotiated ceasefire, let humanitarian aid in and doctors to treat the wounded and turn on the power and water. Or are they just playing for time before there is an almighty uruption in the Arab world and beyond.

 

[tsubaki]

the follow up:



(if anyone doesn't already know, Dan Hodges writes for the paper that celebrated Moseley and his Blackshirts)