Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

[tsubaki]

There is talk of the US urging a further delay in the ground operation. Hopefully, it's to organise a negotiated ceasefire, let humanitarian aid in and doctors to treat the wounded and turn on the power and water. Or are they just playing for time before there is an almighty uruption in the Arab world and beyond.

I hope that too

 

[Milkman]

Dan Hodges is such a mess.

 

[DrEFC]

Why are they interviewing this POS?

 

[tsubaki]

Why are they interviewing this POS?

I am not sure that is a misstep - of all the British media covering this war, they have been the best and there is no better way of displaying the reality of what the Israeli government are going to do than by asking them about it.

For all the horror of what he is saying, at least Yachin is honest.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Todays channel 4 news (@ 6pm) was not a pleasant watch. Bloke with a beard around 50 years old, armed to the teeth picking through the rubble of a residence and there was the retrieval of bodies, he explained it was his aim to do the exact same to the opposing force. I understood him, I didn't like what he had to say regards his future actions, but, at the base level, it's blood for blood and will continue to be. It will never end, the emotionless way he explained what he did, to inflict what has happened to me upon 'them', was rather chilling. I suppose there is an element of desensitisation to those on the front line wielding the weapons. Indiscriminate killing I hope is rather difficult to live with, at least initially.

 

[DrEFC]

I am not sure that is a misstep - of all the British media covering this war, they have been the best and there is no better way of displaying the reality of what the Israeli government are going to do than by asking them about it.

For all the horror of what he is saying, at least Yachin is honest.

I get what you mean. I can see why so many of these type of guys grandchildren are completely against the current government..

 

[davek]

the follow up:



(if anyone doesn't already know, Dan Hodges writes for the paper that celebrated Moseley and his Blackshirts)

Moseley's British Union of Fascists and people demonstrating the bombing of civilian populations causing thousands of deaths. Yes, there's definitely an echo of history at play there...

 

[davek]

Dan Hodges is such a mess.

He always comes across when I've seen him on the telly as someone who hates himself. I can defo see why he would like.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Todays channel 4 news (@ 6pm) was not a pleasant watch. Bloke with a beard around 50 years old, armed to the teeth picking through the rubble of a residence and there was the retrieval of bodies, he explained it was his aim to do the exact same to the opposing force. I understood him, I didn't like what he had to say regards his future actions, but, at the base level, it's blood for blood and will continue to be. It will never end, the emotionless way he explained what he did, to inflict what has happened to me upon 'them', was rather chilling. I suppose there is an element of desensitisation to those on the front line wielding the weapons. Indiscriminate killing I hope is rather difficult to live with, at least initially.

This is so well written, I can totally understand the emotion.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

He always comes across when I've seen him on the telly as someone who hates himself. I can defo see why he would like.

 

[Rita_Poon]

This is so well written, I can totally understand the emotion.

I really wish it wasn't
I'd not link todays news from channel4, but if you want it, I'm sure it's out there. Vengeance appears blinding, and now there's no one there that can see.

I just don't know.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I really wish it wasn't
I'd not link todays news from channel4, but if you want it, I'm sure it's out there. Vengeance appears blinding, and now there's no one there that can see.

I just don't know.

Can you avenge the avenger? This is what’s happening
X

 

[Zatara]

None of them are difficult questions, nobody wants to respond to you because you're the thickest, most obnoxious poster I've encountered on this site in 15 years. You know the answers.

Free Palestine means end the occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza.

"Palestine" has never been a country in the strictest sense, but there have been a distinct Arab people living in that part of the world for millennia, enough to justify calling them a nation.

The 1967 "Green Line" is the generally accepted border for a future Palestinian state, although some land swaps are inevitable given the growth of settlements adjacent to Jerusalem like Ma'ale Adumim and Pisgat Ze'ev.

"From the river to the sea" means the destruction of Israel, as anyone who knows the geography of the region can tell. It's a horrible chant, and I'd be happy to never hear it again. I do believe that not all of those who chant it are aware of the connotations.

I've explained in a prior post what Zionism is, and which concept of zionism is bad. Zionists do not control the media, but it is fair to say their representation is disproportionate to their population. However, I would agree with anyone who tried to argue that ascribing this to nefarious means is antisemitic.


Feel free to respond to this with a middle finger, as that all I would've given anything you posted prior to putting you on ignore.

Now please crawl back under your stone, you supercilious weasel.

Jews and Arabs are genetically related. Not only because the bible says so, DNA does too.

Palestinian arabs are considered being at the bottom of the ladder amongst other arabs. This is no secret and there are clear reasons for this which can be seen though other nations actions.

All of the descendants of of those who 'remained' in the Israeli land in 1948 would have been, and are now considered Israeli arabs.

Most of those we see in Gaza and the West Bank are descendants of those who left and hoped to return once Israel was destroyed.

None of this should be arguable.

So this shouldnt be a racial attack on jews. Theres no logic to it.

The Palestinians are considered to be hostile and violent and also under the boot of Hamas.

So its a cultural argument, not a racial one.

Stop deflecting and tell me why Israel is not an apartheid state

This is the third time I’ve asked you and you have come back with nothing

Instead of calling what’s said a joke provide me some argument that it isn’t and stop bringing in other countries into it

If you cant be bothered to read my previous posts on the matter then see the one above.

You cant call Israel an apartheid state when theyre a nation with diverse belief systems within an intrinsicly similar ethnic group.

It would mean separating arabs/jews which makes no sense. To my knowledge they also allow foreigners to move there without as many barriers as arab nations.

The only separation is palestinians and israelis with extremely obvious reasons why.

Not the worst answer, besides the personal insults.

Asking me to finger you is a bit weird so I’ll pass

lol

 

[Zatara]

Gentle reminder that this country are the ones backing Hamas:

Iranian girl, 16, attacked for failing to wear hijab' is 'brain dead'

Armita Geravand, 16, fell into a coma earlier this month after she sustained 'severe injuries' following an alleged 'physical assault' by female morality police officers on the Tehran metro.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Blue 1]

Jews and Arabs are genetically related. Not only because the bible says so, DNA does too.

Palestinian arabs are considered being at the bottom of the ladder amongst other arabs. This is no secret and there are clear reasons for this which can be seen though other nations actions.

All of the descendants of of those who 'remained' in the Israeli land in 1948 would have been, and are now considered Israeli arabs.

Most of those we see in Gaza and the West Bank are descendants of those who left and hoped to return once Israel was destroyed.

None of this should be arguable.

So this shouldnt be a racial attack on jews. Theres no logic to it.

The Palestinians are considered to be hostile and violent and also under the boot of Hamas.

So its a cultural argument, not a racial one.



If you cant be bothered to read my previous posts on the matter then see the one above.

You cant call Israel an apartheid state when theyre a nation with diverse belief systems within an intrinsicly similar ethnic group.

It would mean separating arabs/jews which makes no sense. To my knowledge they also allow foreigners to move there without as many barriers as arab nations.

The only separation is palestinians and israelis with extremely obvious reasons why.

Funny to see you regurgitating some of the oldest, most widely debunked Israeli myths.

Yes, the two peoples are genetically related. Most Palestinians probably have more semitic blood than the Ashkenazi Jews moving to Israel from Brooklyn and the like.

However, claiming that if the Arabs had just remained where they were they and their descendants would be Israeli Arabs now is bollocks. It was David Ben-Gurion's stated aim that there needed to be as few Palestinians as possible within the Israeli state for it to remain Jewish, because of future demographics. Yep, the leaders of other Arab countries told the Palestinians to leave while they failed in destroying Israel. They were also driven off the land, and in some cases, massacred, by the Irgun, Palmach and the rest of the Jewish terrorist groups.

The situation in the West Bank very much resembles apartheid. The Palestinians basically live in 4 bantustans, with their entry and exit controlled by the IDF. Several of my family members have been there multiple times.

Within Israel "proper" it's less arguable, but there's plenty of evidence that a two-tier legal system exists, certainly when it comes to civil matters like planning, marriage etc. even if its not enshrined in law.

You seem to have an entirely one-eyed view of the history and conflict, believe every popular Israeli myth, and that they're entirely innocent of any wrongdoing. You also seem to view Palestinians as less than people, and hold them entirely to blame for their own suffering. Yet you tell others to have balance. It's bizarre.