Current Affairs Israel is an apartheid state

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Lets face it, righty or wrongly, many or most people think that Israel got a taste of its own medicine over the weekend. That's the underlying and prevailing mood.
Nah, I’m sorry mate but that’s a awful take. If it was a attack targeting the settlers who the Israeli army has armed and are rampantly raiding Palestinian villages and evicting them from their homes then maybe.

However, a bunch of innocent youngsters at a music festival isn’t even a remotely legitimate military target.

You can argue the fact that Israeli aggression and oppression over the years has lead to an attack like this being an inevitability, but it absolutely doesn’t make it right, or something to be celebrated.
 
Nah, I’m sorry mate but that’s a awful take. If it was a attack targeting the settlers who the Israeli army has armed and are rampantly raiding Palestinian villages and evicting them from their homes then maybe.

However, a bunch of innocent youngsters at a music festival isn’t even a remotely legitimate military target.

You can argue the fact that Israeli aggression and oppression over the years has lead to an attack like this being an inevitability, but it absolutely doesn’t make it right, or something to be celebrated.
It's a stake that many people will have. As I said - rightly or wrongly - that's the way many people are seeing it.
 
Myself not one read much previous posts and I can imagine what some of them are...

Apologise if this has been covered or not relevant to present discussion.

Indeed it’s worth reminding anyone who remains confused or feigns confusion, there will never be peace. Because Israel doesn’t want peace. Never has, never will. It only wants the land. This evolving map is all you need to explain what’s going on.


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Myself not one read much previous posts and I can imagine what some of them are...

Apologise if this has been covered or not relevant to present discussion.

Indeed it’s worth reminding anyone who remains confused or feigns confusion, there will never be peace. Because Israel doesn’t want peace. Never has, never will. It only wants the land. This evolving map is all you need to explain what’s going on.


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I saw that map, and noted commentary below it contesting it's accuracy. Found this article;


Appreciate the source is what it is, mind.

This stuck out to me;

The next map in the series at the top is labelled “UN Plan 1947” which was and is just that: a plan. Moreover it was a plan vehemently rejected by the Palestinian leadership and the Arab states. As this map reflects no real situation that ever existed on the ground, it is totally irrelevant to a supposed history of Palestinian land ownership.
 
There was a guy on BBC news just then. He was questioning why, the West, UK/EU etc spend billions supplying Israel with weapons and intelligence so they can destroy Gaza, but we then spend billions rebuilding Gaza, only for the cycle to happen again 3-4 years later!! Its been happening for decades now. Its honestly mind boggling!!
Capitalism.

War is big business - just follow the money.
 
It's mind boggling to decent ordinary people. It's business and geopolitics to the western elites and makes perfect sense,.
Yep, the West certainly doesnt brunt the debt. Free Guns/Missiles/Construction/Infrastructure doesn't exist..

All of these are debt to the countries being supplied with them, be it Palestine, Israel, Ukraine etc etc.. Being indebted gives the creditor massive power and influence.
 
Lets face it, righty or wrongly, many or most people think that Israel got a taste of its own medicine over the weekend. That's the underlying and prevailing mood.

I couldn’t disagree with you more if that’s how you phrase it - everyone I’ve spoken to, and the majority of the articles I’ve read, has expressed horror at what happened on Saturday whilst also recognising whose ultimate responsibility it is and what needs to end (the occupation) for the calamity to have a chance of ending.
 
I saw that map, and noted commentary below it contesting it's accuracy. Found this article;


Appreciate the source is what it is, mind.

This stuck out to me;
Note worthy they dont offer their map of any truth...
 
Note worthy they dont offer their map of any truth...

At the bottom they have one/reference this one;

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They also link to this;


Me? I've no clue.

I just saw the map you shared online and the debate towards its accuracy.
 
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