Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

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You mean like Varadkar suggesting that the U.K. will not be allowed to use Irish airspace. If that is Ireland speaking for itself then they really could do with keeping quiet, and I expect Barnier has told Varadkar to shut up until he receives further instructions.

The ROI have made their position plain, there is no more for them to do, Brussels and Westminster will now determine how this is resolved, either amicably or not. Either way the ROI role is to accept what is agreed or suffer a massive hit to its GDP and the loss of tens of thousands of jobs through a no deal scenario. Varadkar is out of his depth here. If his only wish is an open border then he knows that this is exactly what the U.K. wants as well, it is now written into its law. His constant sniping and stupid comments therefore have more to do with his ego or he is trying to show his masters in Brussels what a good European he is. Obviously the ROI population love him for baiting the U.K. but we’ll see how much he is loved if this helps to lead to a no deal position. A position I might add that the U.K. is actually warming up to.....

There's a very sinister tone to your post here Pete............do you keep forgetting that it's the UK that caused this and to this date still has not come up with a workable solution for the border.

And as for your last comment - about the UK warming to a No Deal scenario - can you point me to any evidence to substantiate this claim?
 
There's a very sinister tone to your post here Pete............do you keep forgetting that it's the UK that caused this and to this date still has not come up with a workable solution for the border.

And as for your last comment - about the UK warming to a No Deal scenario - can you point me to any evidence to substantiate this claim?

Pete lives inside his own head, Chuck.

Where facts are twisted and truths manipulated to mean owt he wants to believe :)
 
There's a very sinister tone to your post here Pete............do you keep forgetting that it's the UK that caused this and to this date still has not come up with a workable solution for the border.

And as for your last comment - about the UK warming to a No Deal scenario - can you point me to any evidence to substantiate this claim?

It is irrelevant who caused this. An answer needs to be found and it needs to be found by both the U.K. and the EU.

The prospect of a no deal has been growing since the EU have shown complete intransigence in actually moving negotiations forward. What was once quietly mentioned, while uninformed arguments raged about WTO and tariffs etc, is now moving into place with this weeks WTO circulation and more vocal and public discussion regarding a no deal.

The previous and new Brexit Secretary has opined on a number of occasions that...“Britain will “thrive” in the event of a “no-deal” divorce from the European Union, the U.K.’s new Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, told MPs during a tense and at times fiery evidence session at a House of Commons committee Tuesday.

Appearing before the Brexit select committee, Raab accepted there would be “uncertainty” in the short term if a withdrawal agreement cannot be reached with Brussels before Britain’s departure in March next year, but insisted the U.K. economy would be fine in the long term.”
 
The prospect of a no deal has been growing since the EU have shown complete intransigence in actually moving negotiations forward. What was once quietly mentioned, while uninformed arguments raged about WTO and tariffs etc, is now moving into place with this weeks WTO circulation and more vocal and public discussion regarding a no deal.

Appearing before the Brexit select committee, Raab accepted there would be “uncertainty” in the short term if a withdrawal agreement cannot be reached with Brussels before Britain’s departure in March next year, but insisted the U.K. economy would be fine in the long term.”

In the long term it’d be ‘fine’. Only as per, he, like all of the others advocating this path can’t put any actual detailed study behind this assertion.

Yet more ‘belief’ based nothingness.
 
Was watching Bertie Ahern the other day (tho interview first aired in april iirc) on conflict zone with Tim Sebastian, he said ''we don't really trust British, we had 800 years of British misrule here, after the Brexit we will lose our communication channels as well''
 
the classic sentiment of someone who caused this.

Not really. The issue exists and needs to be dealt with by all sides. Pointing a finger and saying you caused this doesn’t really help...but hey, keep pointing the finger if it makes you happier......
 
Not really. The issue exists and needs to be dealt with by all sides. Pointing a finger and saying you caused this doesn’t really help...but hey, keep pointing the finger if it makes you happier......
true but it doesn't make the fact that you caused it 'irrelevant'.
You've spent the last year saying that it's the EU who want a hard border.
You posted this again and again like it was the check mate in any argument.
Thing is, you are well aware how disingenuous you're being.
So while nobody wins when pointing fingers, we'll only start moving forward when leavers take responsibility for the decision they've made.
You chose to leave, that will always be relevant to any solution.
 
true but it doesn't make the fact that you caused it 'irrelevant'.
You've spent the last year saying that it's the EU who want a hard border.
You posted this again and again like it was the check mate in any argument.
Thing is, you are well aware how disingenuous you're being.
So while nobody wins when pointing fingers, we'll only start moving forward when leavers take responsibility for the decision they've made.
You chose to leave, that will always be relevant to any solution.

Well if we want to be pedantic, the GFA caused it, that was caused by trying to get a solution to terrorists, which was caused by Irish Nationalists wanting to reverse NI’s right to be part of the U.K. , which was.......it’s quiet easy this finger pointing........however, none of this actually helps to sort out a sensible solution, because people will argue about who’s fault it was forever and keep a grievance going, rather than addressing the issue......
 
Well if we want to be pedantic, the GFA caused it, that was caused by trying to get a solution to terrorists, which was caused by Irish Nationalists wanting to reverse NI’s right to be part of the U.K. , which was.......it’s quiet easy this finger pointing........however, none of this actually helps to sort out a sensible solution, because people will argue about who’s fault it was forever and keep a grievance going, rather than addressing the issue......
So the peace agreement caused it.....incredible.

If we’re going to be pedantic, then the reason this is now an issue is due to the WTO, and their rules Pete. We’re running away from EU trade rules and their truly hideous single market and frictionless trade.....to take back control......only we’re now going to be subservient to another organisation namely the WTO, and it’s the rules of this organisation that make the hard border an essential.

For yet more ‘pedantry’ how about the fact that this is entirely optional on our part. There’s ways to leave the EU and fulfil the referendum result that wouldn’t necessitate a hard border or some fictional technology that doesn’t currently exist.

But no, in the World of the entrenched and either completely deluded or disingenuous Brexiteer, this issure is a result of EU ‘bullying’ or the Good Friday Agreement. Shame on you.
 
Well if we want to be pedantic, the GFA caused it, that was caused by trying to get a solution to terrorists, which was caused by Irish Nationalists wanting to reverse NI’s right to be part of the U.K. , which was.......it’s quiet easy this finger pointing........however, none of this actually helps to sort out a sensible solution, because people will argue about who’s fault it was forever and keep a grievance going, rather than addressing the issue......
Pointing out the the UK chose to leave the EU so the onus is on the UK to figure out how to leave the EU is not being pedantic.
It's neither irrelevant nor pedantic.
It's up to the government that you voted for to enact the referendum you voted for.
 
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