Put um high - stop @Charlie Sweet snuggling!lol
Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit
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ah come on Joey, all you're looking for is snuggles!
Smuggleslol
I did here on LBC the contraband on the black market going either way over the border was a great perklol
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Joey let's first embrace the man love issue. I'm not averse to a snuggle. You only need to ask.
But on the cameras front the supposed agreed position with the EU, Ireland and the UK is very clear - there would be no cameras or customs points or security checks on the border. All 310 miles of it and the 275 individual roads crossing points (not including farm tracks). So let me ask you again - how does your border idea work?
That's where your doing your smuggling down farm tracks what a racket your coining it inlol
Helicopters will do spot checks even the sheep will be safelol
Focus Joey, Focus.
Explain it to us otherwise I suspect my last post on here will be a selfie of me holding a stolen border camera as if it’s the FA cup.
He just wants to be right about something and tell us all we are being difficult and the EU sucks.
Clearly he reads what he wants to read so he can get his own point across.
Finally agree? What? I never said the technology wasn't there. Never. I said its not "easy" nor is it "basic" as you claimed.
Like i said pointless. You read and take what you want from each point made to you.
the mad thing is, you'd swear we all loved the EU, like we're European nationalists or something.
The EU has flaws, big flaws but the brits just taking the ball and going home is not going to fix anything for anyone.
Stay in the single market, figure out what you dont like about the EU and elect MPs who are capable of changing it to reflect your views.
Exactly they ignore how many times a lot of us have indeed criticized the EU.
They lump as all being remainers and pro EU haha!!
Back sliding' on commitments will risk further Brexit negotiations - Tusk
President of the European Council Donald Tusk has said that any "back sliding" on commitments made so far on Brexit would create a risk to further negotiations.
"This applies also to the question of avoiding a hard border," he said.
Mr Tusk was addressing the media with Taoiseach Leo Varadkar following their meeting in Government Buildings this afternoon.
Mr Varadkar said the two had an "extensive discussion" about Brexit and he thanked Mr Tusk for his "solid and sensible leadership" and "unwavering support for Ireland in our unique concerns".
Mr Tusk went on to say that he noted that the UK government rejects a customs and regulatory border down the Irish Sea, the EU single market, and the customs union.
"While we must respect this position, we also expect the UK to propose a specific and realistic solution to avoid a hard border.
"As long as the UK doesn’t present such a solution, it is very difficult to imagine substantive progress in Brexit negotiations.
"If in London someone assumes that the negotiations will deal with other issues first before moving to the Irish issue, my response would be 'Ireland first'."
Mr Tusk said that while the EU must recognise the democratic decision taken by Britain in 2016 to leave the EU, the EU must recognise the democratic decision made on the island of Ireland in 1998 with all its consequences.
"The risk of jeopardising the fragile peace process must be avoided at all costs, so we will be firm on this," he said.
Mr Tusk referred to a speech by the UK's Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond yesterday in London where he argued for a bespoke deal, or an ambitious free trade agreement, covering financial services.
Mr Tusk said that in the FTA the EU can offer trade in goods with the aim of covering all sectors subject to zero tariff and no quantitative restrictions "but services are not about tariffs".
"Services are about common rules, common supervision and common enforcement to ensure a level playing field, to ensure the integrity of the single market and ultimately to ensure financial stability.
"This is why we cannot offer the same in services as we can offer in goods. It’s also why FTAs don’t have detailed rules for financial services.
"We should all be clear that also when it comes to financial services life will be different after Brexit."
Mr Tusk said that since he last visited Ireland he has spoken to virtually every EU leader and "everyone of them, without exception, declared ... that among their priorities are protecting the peace process and avoiding a hard border.
"The EU stands by Ireland. This is a matter between the EU 27 and the UK, not Ireland and the UK. "
Mr Tusk's visit comes before the European Council meeting of EU leaders on 22-23 March on Brexit and economic affairs.
Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney has suggested the EU could block British Prime Minister Theresa May's plans to maintain a soft border between Ireland and the UK while leaving the customs union.
One fallback option is the UK would have to accept keeping Northern Ireland in an effective customs union with the EU.
This is Mr Tusk's second visit to Ireland in three months.
He has already pledged that the EU will stand with Ireland on the border issue and the Government’s efforts to ensure the frictionless passage of people and goods.
President of the European Council Donald Tusk has said that any "back sliding" on commitments made so far on Brexit would create a risk to further negotiations.
"This applies also to the question of avoiding a hard border," he said.
Mr Tusk was addressing the media with Taoiseach Leo Varadkar following their meeting in Government Buildings this afternoon.
Mr Varadkar said the two had an "extensive discussion" about Brexit and he thanked Mr Tusk for his "solid and sensible leadership" and "unwavering support for Ireland in our unique concerns".
Mr Tusk went on to say that he noted that the UK government rejects a customs and regulatory border down the Irish Sea, the EU single market, and the customs union.
"While we must respect this position, we also expect the UK to propose a specific and realistic solution to avoid a hard border.
"As long as the UK doesn’t present such a solution, it is very difficult to imagine substantive progress in Brexit negotiations.
"If in London someone assumes that the negotiations will deal with other issues first before moving to the Irish issue, my response would be 'Ireland first'."
Mr Tusk said that while the EU must recognise the democratic decision taken by Britain in 2016 to leave the EU, the EU must recognise the democratic decision made on the island of Ireland in 1998 with all its consequences.
"The risk of jeopardising the fragile peace process must be avoided at all costs, so we will be firm on this," he said.
Mr Tusk referred to a speech by the UK's Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond yesterday in London where he argued for a bespoke deal, or an ambitious free trade agreement, covering financial services.
Mr Tusk said that in the FTA the EU can offer trade in goods with the aim of covering all sectors subject to zero tariff and no quantitative restrictions "but services are not about tariffs".
"Services are about common rules, common supervision and common enforcement to ensure a level playing field, to ensure the integrity of the single market and ultimately to ensure financial stability.
"This is why we cannot offer the same in services as we can offer in goods. It’s also why FTAs don’t have detailed rules for financial services.
"We should all be clear that also when it comes to financial services life will be different after Brexit."
Mr Tusk said that since he last visited Ireland he has spoken to virtually every EU leader and "everyone of them, without exception, declared ... that among their priorities are protecting the peace process and avoiding a hard border.
"The EU stands by Ireland. This is a matter between the EU 27 and the UK, not Ireland and the UK. "
Mr Tusk's visit comes before the European Council meeting of EU leaders on 22-23 March on Brexit and economic affairs.
Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney has suggested the EU could block British Prime Minister Theresa May's plans to maintain a soft border between Ireland and the UK while leaving the customs union.
One fallback option is the UK would have to accept keeping Northern Ireland in an effective customs union with the EU.
This is Mr Tusk's second visit to Ireland in three months.
He has already pledged that the EU will stand with Ireland on the border issue and the Government’s efforts to ensure the frictionless passage of people and goods.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Anyway, it’s all coming to nothing as Tusk is now saying that the border issue has to be resolved before any deal. And as the results of a deal are required before the border issue resolution can be produced, then we are in a circular argument with no answer. If no deal is done we will end up with WTO and the U.K. refusing to put up a hard border and then watching the ROI and the EU to see if they dare follow through with their own hard border.......
Ruairi we are but mere pawns being moved around the board by the EU monolith.
Apparently.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Not just apparently, apparently......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Hahahaha....what do you think the U.K. has been trying to do all these years. Anyway good luck for the ROI changing the EU, I hope you have more success than we did.....
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