Charlie Sweet
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I wonder what a Sinn Fein PM would.mean for the UK and the future of the 6 counties. I've missed it but anyone know what SF's policy is on a NI referendum?
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The have said it isn’t a red line issue for any coalition deal in the south but McDonald has also called for a referendum within 5 years.
Mary Lou won’t be Taioseach anyway, Chuck.
Not this time anyway.
The Sinners aren’t fielding enough candidates.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
indeed, Martin will be the new leader.....
NilSatisOptimum
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Maybe because they were asset stripped forced into famine by invading Empire then who imposed themselves as landlords (British), denied them personhood. So legally the Irish were denied to be recognised as human, education was illegal, murder was not recognised if you happened to kill an Irish national the list of atrocities goes on.
Something with the occupation of Ireland takes generations to recover from. If you are to recall the Axis of evil as example, then Irish would be the Chinese or Koreans at the hands of the Japanes Imperialism or Poland at the mercy of Nazi Germany.
Plus the English occupation of Ireland ain’t completely over yet.
But hopefully it soon will be
Brexit might yet have an upside
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
It doesn’t really matter. The big T of ROI cannot ask another country, the U.K., to hold a referendum on one part of it joining the ROI, well they could and they could be told to sod off. If however the ROI wishes to join NI, they can have a vote, then NI and the U.K. can consider it.........
Have you not heard of the Good Friday Agreement?
Yeah, right.
The first chance Brexitannia gets to divest itself of the bottomless money pit that is NI it will grab with both hands.
The Irish Sea border is just the beginning, Peter.
Fedlingen
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My guess here is that the lad has heard of it, but never read it.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Not really. If the people of NI wish to be in the U.K. then the rest of us will support them. If they wish to be independent Or join another country, we will support them. The same goes with Scotland. You cannot force people to be part of something. On the plus side, England and Wales without NI or Scotland and outside of the EU would do very nicely, but people need to chose...and countries need to respect the outcome.....
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Yes I have. But the ROI doesn’t get to vote on whether NI joins the ROI. Nor does the U.K. get to vote on the ROI joining the U.K.....
Just in case you were not paying attention to the General Election results in Ulster (6 of 9) Peter, the Nationalists won more seats than the Unionists.
The most recent Opinion Poll on the subject showed 52% (now there is a familiar figure innit
) in favour of Irish re-unification within the European Union.Oh and they wouldn’t be voting to “join another country”....they would be voting to complete a process which started and should have been completed in 1922.
i.e. Brexit from Ireland.
So the writing is in the wall, Peter.....and cash strapped Brexitannia ain’t going to keep pouring money into a region where changing demographics are going to see us shown the way to the Liverpool boat in the not too distant future.
And as for Scotland...seems to me the Tory government in Westminster are doing everything they can to actually prevent the Jocks to vote for self determination....in other words we are indeed forcing “people to be part of something“, sommat you say we cannot do.
(I make you right on that last part BTW...it is just Mr. Boris Johnson disagrees with us
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