Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

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peteblue said:
Boris or Bojo....either will do....

I noticed that Corbyn doesn’t want anyone referring to Boris as Boris because it makes him more of a personality. Is this what you have been ordered to do.....
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People have been saying this for a while. It's a calculated way to make people feel he's more of a pal, rather than a dangerous member of a elite. Obviously, many in the traditionally subservient English culture are willing to go along with this and doff their cap and use whatever name they want them to.
 
dead_soft said:
People have been saying this for a while. It's a calculated way to make people feel he's more of a pal, rather than a dangerous member of a elite. Obviously, many in the traditionally subservient English culture are willing to go along with this and doff their cap and use whatever name they want them to.
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Boris it is then........
 
Ruairi77 said:
@peteblue
here's a fairly good synopsis of Varadkar for you.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...kar-uk-ireland-boris-johnson?CMP=share_btn_tw
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Well it depends on which newspaper you read. Interestingly, there was an article in the Telegraph yesterday on Varadkar. It was the exact opposite of the tabloid Guardian. I have long had the impression that throughout the Brexit process, Varadkar has been playing up to Brussels. I am convinced he sees his future in Brussels and his future is more important than RI. I make one quote from the Telegraph article.

...........These are not the only ways in which Varadkar has payed fast and loose with peace in NI. Lord Trimble one of the architects of the peace process, explained in a Policy Exchange paper last week how the backstop has 'driven (the Good Friday Agreement) into the ditch'. This is because - both in the way it was conceived and the way it would work - the backstop studiously ignores the consent principle that is vital to government in NI. As Simon Coveney said about unionist opposition to the backstop: 'We cannot allow one party in NI to veto any proposals'.
Dublin's policy was bold, audacious and very nearly successful. Varadkar has sought to impose humiliating terms on Ireland's larger and more powerful neighbour. He has tried to turn a bilateral peace process between the UK and Ireland into a political stand-off between the UK and the EU. And he has abused the Good Friday Agreement for his own ends, while shamelessly accusing Brexit supporters of endangering the peace process'
 
Methuselah said:
Varadkar has sought to impose humiliating terms on Ireland's larger and more powerful neighbour.
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First off, looking for insurance that if negotiations fail that NI will remain in the single market is hardly humiliating, especially given that the WA has hit the rocks after being agreed to.
secondly, in relation to trade and the withdrawal agreement. Britain is now negotiating with it's larger and more powerful neighbour
 
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Methuselah said:
He has tried to turn a bilateral peace process between the UK and Ireland into a political stand-off between the UK and the EU. And he has abused the Good Friday Agreement for his own ends, while shamelessly accusing Brexit supporters of endangering the peace process'
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The GFA was put in jeopardy the minute the UK voted to leave the EU. Varadkar is reacting, not acting.
The point of the Guardian piece and the reason I directed it at Pete, is that it's a no brainer for Varadkar who's not loved at home, to stand up to Johnson. He's not doing it to get a cushy gig in Brussels. He's not doing it because he wants a united Ireland. He's doing it because it's the will of the Irish people and he only stands to benefit politically.
Were it not for the mess that is British politics, Varadkars unlikely coalition would have fallen a while ago.
 
Methuselah said:
Well it depends on which newspaper you read. Interestingly, there was an article in the Telegraph yesterday on Varadkar. It was the exact opposite of the tabloid Guardian. I have long had the impression that throughout the Brexit process, Varadkar has been playing up to Brussels. I am convinced he sees his future in Brussels and his future is more important than RI. I make one quote from the Telegraph article.

...........These are not the only ways in which Varadkar has payed fast and loose with peace in NI. Lord Trimble one of the architects of the peace process, explained in a Policy Exchange paper last week how the backstop has 'driven (the Good Friday Agreement) into the ditch'. This is because - both in the way it was conceived and the way it would work - the backstop studiously ignores the consent principle that is vital to government in NI. As Simon Coveney said about unionist opposition to the backstop: 'We cannot allow one party in NI to veto any proposals'.
Dublin's policy was bold, audacious and very nearly successful. Varadkar has sought to impose humiliating terms on Ireland's larger and more powerful neighbour. He has tried to turn a bilateral peace process between the UK and Ireland into a political stand-off between the UK and the EU. And he has abused the Good Friday Agreement for his own ends, while shamelessly accusing Brexit supporters of endangering the peace process'
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Spot on......
 
Ruairi77 said:
First off, looking for insurance that if negotiations fail that NI will remain in the single market is hardly humiliating, especially given that the WA has hit the rocks after being agreed to.
secondly, in relation to trade and the withdrawal agreement. Britain is now negotiating with it's larger and more powerful neighbour
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I’ve said this all along, Varadkar acting like the little stirrer with his big mates. Well let’s just see how it plays out, because Boris isn’t changing course and Varadkar’s big mates are getting a bit twitchy......
 
Ruairi77 said:
The GFA was put in jeopardy the minute the UK voted to leave the EU. Varadkar is reacting, not acting.
The point of the Guardian piece and the reason I directed it at Pete, is that it's a no brainer for Varadkar who's not loved at home, to stand up to Johnson. He's not doing it to get a cushy gig in Brussels. He's not doing it because he wants a united Ireland. He's doing it because it's the will of the Irish people and he only stands to benefit politically.
Were it not for the mess that is British politics, Varadkars unlikely coalition would have fallen a while ago.
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Is it really the will of the Irish people to [Poor language removed] its largest single market and put pressure upon a peace process, because that’s what he is doing......if it truly is the will of the Irish, then good luck with that.....
 
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