Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

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Joey66 said:
Or lose their UK connection given to Spain in the future........
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I’ve quoted it in the other thread , I don’t know who you heard the chief minister had this to say


by Chief Minister Fabian Picardo

Ahead of the Special European Council in Brussels tomorrow, I have held an extraordinary session of the Gibraltar Cabinet this evening.

Tonight, I want to be clear with you all about what the current situation is.

A few moments ago I took a call from Prime Minister Theresa May.

The message I deliver to you tonight, in respect of the position of the United Kingdom, comes direct from my conversation with her.

The statement today by the Prime Minister of Spain, Pedro Sanchez, has confused a number of issues.

First of all, the only thing that the United Kingdom Government has agreed is an interpretation of Article 184 of the draft Withdrawal Agreement when read with Article 3 of it.

That interpretation does NOT exclude Gibraltar.

That interpretation does NOT prejudice Gibraltar.

In fact, the United Kingdom Government has specifically stated that its interpretation is without prejudice to the fact that the UK will negotiate future arrangements to include Gibraltar.

The full text of the letter and clarification has been published and can be read by everyone.

Every aspect of the response of the United Kingdom was agreed with the Government of Gibraltar.

We have worked seamlessly together in this as we have in all other aspects of this two year period of negotiation.

Most importantly, the legal text of the draft Withdrawal Agreement has not been changed.

That is what the Spanish Government repeatedly sought.

But they have not achieved that.

The United Kingdom has not let us down.

Theresa May has not let us down.

She has stood firm.

We have stood firm.

Spain has had to accept a clarification which does not have the weight of legal value that it sought in respect of Articles 3 and 184 of the Withdrawal Agreement.

So in that respect, you should have no concerns whatsoever



And the WITHDRAWAL AGREEMEMNT itself still constitutes a mechanism for a better and more orderly departure from the European Union than a cliff edge Brexit.

Indeed, I must emphasise that nothing that has happened today changes that the Withdrawal Agreement and it’s Transitional Period will apply to Gibraltar.

LET THAT BE CLEAR.

Separately, Pedro Sanchez also announced that he has agreed declarations with the other remaining 27 Member States of the European Union.

Let’s be clear: those declarations are NOT agreed or shared by the United Kingdom.

Neither are they binding on the United Kingdom in any way.

In fact, Mr Sanchez announced those declarations before they had even been shown to any UK politician, official or diplomat.

They are no more than a political position adopted by the remaining 27 Member States.
 
Mark O'Silver said:
It sounded to me like he was just attacking May for the sake of attacking May from a default position as leader of HM opposition. It seemed unnecessary as she had stood down the right wing of her own party and the DUP in one stroke by agreeing to the backstop.

I wonder if she hadn't agreed to the deal and the talks had broken down, would he have then criticised her for failing to negotiate a deal at all and NOT facing down the DUP and those rabid anti-EU MPs in her own party. I suspect he would have. It's blatant opportunism without principle in my book instead of sticking to what he believes in. Corbyn siding with the DUP leaves a bad taste in the mouth whatever way you look at it.
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Waits for a cult member to defend our Prince of Socialist Principles.
 
davek said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46530569

Words fail me.

The absolute state of that lot propping the Tories up.
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The pressure isn’t on him as he is the son of the King, Rev Ian Paisley. His surname is electoral gold in that part of the world.

Arlene is the one to make the decision. This is the second financial allegation against Baby Doc and outside the DUP he is now synonymous with free holiday bungs.

She won’t do a thing as the Union Jack trumps all other considerations.
 
Armaghtoffee said:
The pressure isn’t on him as he is the son of the King, Rev Ian Paisley. His surname is electoral gold in that part of the world.

Arlene is the one to make the decision. This is the second financial allegation against Baby Doc and outside the DUP he is now synonymous with free holiday bungs.

She won’t do a thing as the Union Jack trumps all other considerations.
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Not only that, but if she did fire him he would run as an Independent and trash any candidate the DUP could put up against him.

Mrs. Foster is the Queen without a crown.....powerless to do owt.

She is leader in name only.....hanging around the Westminster great hall like a bad smell when it is all kicking off in the Chamber.

Her deal with Sinn Fein to get the Assembly up and running again, sommat she desperately needed and wanted in order to stay relevant, was stymied by backwoodsmen in Ballymena and Cullybackey.

And her credibility took an almighty hit when she was cross examined at the RHI thingy.
 
Mark O'Silver said:
It's the centenary of the 1918 GE today when the people of Ireland voted to leave the UK but the result was not accepted.

How ironic is it that exactly 100 years later the tables have been turned 180 degrees and Ireland is frustrating the UK's efforts to leave the EU.

Karma's a bitch sometimes..
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There is a great programme on RTE right now, reporting the results of that election in the fashion of a modern TV station.

I can watch RTE online but this programme should be available to the general English public to let them see the hames we have made in Ireland.

And maybe understand why the English imposed border in Ireland is causing such a headache for the Brexit beauts a blood stained century later.
 
Khalekan said:
There is a great programme on RTE right now, reporting the results of that election in the fashion of a modern TV station.

I can watch RTE online but this programme should be available to the general English public to let them see the hames we have made in Ireland.

And maybe understand why the English imposed border in Ireland is causing such a headache for the Brexit beauts a blood stained century later.
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I know, I'm watching it at the moment. Very informative.
 
Mark O'Silver said:
It's the centenary of the 1918 GE today when the people of Ireland voted to leave the UK but the result was not accepted.

How ironic is it that exactly 100 years later the tables have been turned 180 degrees and Ireland is frustrating the UK's efforts to leave the EU.

Karma's a bitch sometimes..
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That is what gets me. Leavers demanding the democratic vote is respected but yet have no idea of their own country’s political history.
 
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