Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

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Can't see how brexit can go ahead under these terms, surely this will either mean the start of Irish unification or a war. How much does it cost to send in the troops?

The only way out is to ensure the whole of the UK is part of the common market.
 
What will the unionists do if basically there is more control over the North from Dublin than there is from London?

To clarify by war I meant a return to 'the troubles'

That situation is highly unlikely to happen. At very most there would be something close to joint sovereignty. But the idea of Dublin suddenly having a bigger hand than Westminster isn't going to happen.

Unionists are going to get a deal they largely dislike but the Union isn't going to be threatened.
 
That situation is highly unlikely to happen. At very most there would be something close to joint sovereignty. But the idea of Dublin suddenly having a bigger hand than Westminster isn't going to happen.

Unionists are going to get a deal they largely dislike but the Union isn't going to be threatened.

You will have a much better handle on this than me but from the outside I can't see how the UK can have more input. You can't control your border so immigration could be rife, what knock on effect does that have for healthcare/welfare? I don't think the UK would be picking the tab. As you will get the perks of the EU will you have to pay into the EU? Will this be made through the Irish republic and if so would that mean you would have to pay into the republic's coffers? If that is to be the case taxation will likely be different to the rest of the UK. That's not even scratching the surface of the issue.
 
Surely having a foot in both camps ie remaining in the customs union and being part of the UK could be potentially a very lucrative position for Northern Ireland to be.
Amazes me that the DUP are still so tied up in their old rhetoric that they can't see a good thing when it is hitting them square in the face.
 
Surely having a foot in both camps ie remaining in the customs union and being part of the UK could be potentially a very lucrative position for Northern Ireland to be.
Amazes me that the DUP are still so tied up in their old rhetoric that they can't see a good thing when it is hitting them square in the face.

The problem is that a separate status for NI with "regulatory alignment" not shared by the rest of the UK would be worse than the status quo; no-one would invest there - it would be more complex to export to the EU and to the UK (or at least more difficult than basing a business in the EU or UK themselves would be), but there would be less difficulty importing things in.
 
You will have a much better handle on this than me but from the outside I can't see how the UK can have more input. You can't control your border so immigration could be rife, what knock on effect does that have for healthcare/welfare? I don't think the UK would be picking the tab. As you will get the perks of the EU will you have to pay into the EU? Will this be made through the Irish republic and if so would that mean you would have to pay into the republic's coffers? If that is to be the case taxation will likely be different to the rest of the UK. That's not even scratching the surface of the issue.

The sovereignty of NI can only be changed by a successul border poll. I can't see how suddenly Northern Ireland would become under the influence of Dublin while staying constitutionally in the same position. Joint authority doesn't look like it's happenning any time soon let alone what you are suggesting.

I probably should add that yes I am instinctively unionist, but its not something I'll be losing any sleep over and If unity comes at some point then fine. No evidence that it will be anytime remotely soon though.
 
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