Current Affairs Irish Border and Brexit

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Every single issue discussed about Northern Ireland today would be solved by a free trade deal between the UK and the EU. Why are the EU not open to discussing? It's almost like they are more interested in getting customs and excise duties into their coffers....
 
The sovereignty of NI can only be changed by a successul border poll. I can't see how suddenly Northern Ireland would become under the influence of Dublin while staying constitutionally in the same position. Joint authority doesn't look like it's happenning any time soon let alone what you are suggesting.

I probably should add that yes I am instinctively unionist, but its not something I'll be losing any sleep over and If unity comes at some point then fine. No evidence that it will be anytime remotely soon though.

How would you feel about N.Ireland becoming a Sovereign State within the EU, switching to Euro but Staying in the Commonwealth?
The unionists would have the Queen as the head of state, the nationalists would have an invisible seamless border with the south.
God knows how Stormont would function in that situation tho.
 
How would you feel about N.Ireland becoming a Sovereign State within the EU, switching to Euro but Staying in the Commonwealth?
The unionists would have the Queen as the head of state, the nationalists would have an invisible seamless border with the south.
God knows how Stormont would function in that situation tho.

Maybe. No fan of the EU at all but it could work. A united ireland within EU and commonwealth is potentially a fair solution down the line.

However I can't quite stress how much I think the common currency has been a disaster. For common currency to work you need a nigh on homogeneous area. To claim Germany and Greece etc are similar is lunacy. The euro currency is a disastrous vanity project. Thank goodness we never joined.
 
Surely having a foot in both camps ie remaining in the customs union and being part of the UK could be potentially a very lucrative position for Northern Ireland to be.
Amazes me that the DUP are still so tied up in their old rhetoric that they can't see a good thing when it is hitting them square in the face.
I wonder how those elements in its support who are in business and would stand for economic co-operation (staying within the customs union, embracing elements of the single market) but draw the line at Constitutional drift from the UK will react to such offers? Less 'staunch' than their leadership I'd imagine.

The DUP leadership are possibly shackled from accepting compromise by forces to its right who could make inroads on their votes if the whiff of a sell out was at large.

When the parties negotiating Brexit start up again soon it'll be merely another form of words to present the same idea of a different type of withdrawal for the EU by NI. There can be no other outcome as only when the RoI are happy can any deal be agreed.

Best thing all round is to have a general election which sees a single party majority outcome.
 
Every single issue discussed about Northern Ireland today would be solved by a free trade deal between the UK and the EU. Why are the EU not open to discussing? It's almost like they are more interested in getting customs and excise duties into their coffers....
Are you having a laugh? The entire Brexit debate was on the basis that without adhering to the 4 pillars then access to the single market and customs union isn't happening. Incredible that some of the right wing Brexiteers are now spouting this line on Twitter. Complete idiocy.
 
Maybe. No fan of the EU at all but it could work. A united ireland within EU and commonwealth is potentially a fair solution down the line.

However I can't quite stress how much I think the common currency has been a disaster. For common currency to work you need a nigh on homogeneous area. To claim Germany and Greece etc are similar is lunacy. The euro currency is a disastrous vanity project. Thank goodness we never joined.

The Euro is not ideal but I think there is a good compromise as no member wants to be part of one large Homogenous area, yet a single currency makes sense from a business point of view.
It's a bumpy experiment that's never been tried on this scale before. It's amazing it hasn't collapsed yet but it's still going.
And besides, that's kinda like saying look at London and Middlesborough, how could Sterling ever work.
 
Are you having a laugh? The entire Brexit debate was on the basis that without adhering to the 4 pillars then access to the single market and customs union isn't happening. Incredible that some of the right wing Brexiteers are now spouting this line on Twitter. Complete idiocy.

I'm yet to hear any valid argument why a free trade deal couldn't take place.
 
The Euro is not ideal but I think there is a good compromise as no member wants to be part of one large Homogenous area, yet a single currency makes sense from a business point of view.
It's a bumpy experiment that's never been tried on this scale before. It's amazing it hasn't collapsed yet but it's still going.
And besides, that's kinda like saying look at London and Middlesborough, how could Sterling ever work.

No its not. The reason a single currency works is because a central bank calls the shots, and a central Government does budgets and tax rates and stuff. Like the US $. States have some power to make their own small rules, but their economic situation is run from Washington and the Fed.

Unlike the Euro/EU.
 
No its not. The reason a single currency works is because a central bank calls the shots, and a central Government does budgets and tax rates and stuff. Like the US $. States have some power to make their own small rules, but their economic situation is run from Washington and the Fed.

Unlike the Euro/EU.
Yea, you're right. It was a throw away comment.
It's worth remembering that from 1921 to 1979 the Irish currency was tied to Sterling and it's value was dictated by Westminster and the city.
 
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