tsubaki
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honestly I'd love it if this was true, but the reality is that the right wing s**tposters on here invariably just repeat the same old regurgitated crap we see repeated elsewhere on social media
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honestly I'd love it if this was true, but the reality is that the right wing s**tposters on here invariably just repeat the same old regurgitated crap we see repeated elsewhere on social media
So you believe that newspapers have no influence on voters whatsoever? And those same newspapers and newspaper owners don't also have an online presence? And you also believe that the vast majority of 'mainstream voters' use multiple sources which they have carefully assessed for bias and outside influence to form balanced, tolerant and non-prejudiced viewpoints?
Online media is just another platform for those behind established media to put their opinions and/or agendas across. It's not some revolutionary medium that presents fair and balanced opinion in an easy to find way. And as with media since the beginning of the presses those with the most money and power will find ways to shout louder than the rest. Be it paid for top of the results links or bot armies.
And I'm not 'blaming right-wing newspapers'. You entirely miss my point - I'm saying that those titles have certain viewpoints and will reliably present their take on a news story with a certain degree of bias which is true of pretty much all media. And if titles with a particular viewpoint remain as the best selling titles and harvest the most online clicks then that's an indicator that there is a fair chunk of the populace, the mainstream if you will, that likely share that viewpoint or something very close to it.
Personally I find the views in those top selling papers to be more intolerant than tolerant. Therefore, with a degree of extrapolation, I'm of the opinion that the 'mainstream voter' has a degree of intolerance about them when looked at as a whole. So the idea of Parliamentary majorities as some kind of indicator of intolerance in the left (or it's extremes depending where you draw the line) doesn't necessarily make a whole lot of sense.
I'll leave this here, horrific reading...
Britain’s most racist election: the story of Smethwick, 50 years on
Stuart Jeffries: In 1964, the West Midlands constituency of Smethwick was the most colour-conscious place in the country, and the scene of a Tory campaign that successfully exploited anti-immigrant sentiment
So you think the people who own and publish these titles are entirely ostracised from other forms of media? I'm using print media as a barometer of which particular branches of the '4th Estate' the public tends to turn. Where people put their money is a little more indicative of their values than which links they click on for nothing.
didnt we all get booted out of the ale house for being those intolerant loudmouths everyone else was sick of?
peteblue
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didnt we all get booted out of the ale house for being those intolerant loudmouths everyone else was sick of?
It was a close call, before a few of us demanded our rights (asked politely) for a new forum……
In a thread lamenting the loss of tolerance and balanced tone around differing political views you're using what you view as a crass generalisation of a section of the right to present a crass generalisation of a section of the left.
peteblue
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While you are a beacon of progressive and inclusive debate…..
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If you're a supporter of this regime, you deserve it.
tsubaki
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pete even your responses are scripted by someone else
I'd love it if we had right wing posters on here who talked honestly about what they though about things, using the benefits of their experience. I'd love it if that happened in wider society too, and especially in Parliament.
Instead we have a phenomenon where supporters of the ruling party just chant mantras at us, that anyone who opposes whatever they happen to say at that moment is woke / liberal / a traitor / whatever. This phenomenon is highlighted every day but there was a fantastic example of this in the small boats debate earlier in the week, in which Tory MP after Tory MP lined up to praise whatever it was that our demented Home Secretary was doing but almost none of them pointed out that it was doomed to fail without extra Border Force agents, extra Border Force patrols, extra capacity in the system to hold these people or any means by which these people could be repatriated to somewhere.
This is probably a perfect example. Totally losing sight of the idea being expressed in order to attack an extreme exaggeration of it.
Until we come back to discussing things in good faith, and not use strawman arguments to support weak positions, I don't really see it improving.
peteblue
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I use no one else‘s scripts. You may not like nor agree with anything I write but at least it’s my own…..
milli vanilli 100%
It's also a great example of Tory lies in terms of promises they couldn't keep. Smethwick ended up incredibly diverse and remains so to this day. Vile stuff all the same.I'll leave this here, horrific reading...
Britain’s most racist election: the story of Smethwick, 50 years on
Stuart Jeffries: In 1964, the West Midlands constituency of Smethwick was the most colour-conscious place in the country, and the scene of a Tory campaign that successfully exploited anti-immigrant sentimentwww.theguardian.com
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