Hypothetical Martinez question

[davek]

We kept getting twatted every week and had the worst home record at the club since before the days of Dixie.

Happy to help

Here's Thomas the blue again.

*waves*

 

[Toffe3m4n]

7th is nowhere. 5th is nowhere.

Gettng Everton playing football that wins a lot of matches and piles the points up to elite club levels is the measuring rod.

Moyes failed, Koeman failed, Martinez succeeded.

Never change Dave.

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

We'd be better to watch, but we'd still be gash.

We'd kind of be like Bournemouth if he were still here.

 

[davek]

We must never forget just how toxic the home games had become. It was an absolute chore to go to the game.

If that crowd knew what horror shows were tom follow they'd have soon piped down and got behind the team.

 

[Tel001]

7th is nowhere. 5th is nowhere.

Gettng Everton playing football that wins a lot of matches and piles the points up to elite club levels is the measuring rod.

Moyes failed, Koeman failed, Martinez succeeded.

He must be the only manager ever to be sacked for being successful

 

[TonyS]

Makes you wonder what he could have done here if he actually had players who give 100% instead of throwing every manager they don't fancy under the bus

 

[Jacko93]

If that crowd knew what horror shows were tom follow they'd have soon piped down and got behind the team.

Not really Dave, I know that your not one to accept mediocrity, wheres the ambition in thinking 'well the next might be worse'? He had to go. Even when he did go, in the eyes of many it was probably a week or two too late.

If the crowd knew what was to follow, we'd of had him binned off after year 1.

 

[davek]

Never change Dave.

Roberto Martinez done a lot more good than harm at this club, so that's easy to defend tbh, not the least of which was reintrodicung the club to its own heritage as a football club renowned for football excellence.

Now here we are again after the counter revolution of Koeman and Allardyce facing the abyss of hoofball.

 

[davek]

He must be the only manager ever to be sacked for being successful

New owner comes in and fans seize opportunity to get a manager they have lost faith in out.

...now most of them are disillusioned with their messiah owner....you couldnt make it up.

 

[davek]

Not really Dave, I know that your not one to accept mediocrity, wheres the ambition in thinking 'well the next might be worse'? He had to go. Even when he did go, in the eyes of many it was probably a week or two too late.

If the crowd knew what was to follow, we'd of had him binned off after year 1.

He had to go because the players wouldn't play for him.

Martinez in the second summer he was here should have punted troublesome rubbish like Baines and Jagielka and installed his own people in the dressing room who could play and were loyal to him.

 

[Tel001]

New owner comes in and fans seize opportunity to get a manager they have lost faith in out.

...now most of them are disillusioned with their messiah owner....you couldnt make it up.

We couldn't defend our fitness was shocking and we lost so many goals in the last ten minutes because of it. His play was boring and his interviews were complete bull. The players didn't play for him and the crowd didn't like him... nobody in the prem offered him another job and he has had one good season in his whole career. That season was because he hadn't had enough time to destroy Moyes defence. Worst home record in our history and is the only manager to sign alcaraz and kone TWICE.

 

[davek]

He learned so much from his players that he subsequently went on to lose 8-0 later in the season at Chelsea. What a visionary, ahead of the curve as ever.

WTF are you talking about here?!

Lol.

 

[davek]

It's arguably Martinez's fault that Lukaku is gone. Just saying like.

Ha Ha Ha.

 

[davek]

Let’s be honest, at least under Moyes there was hope. I never thought ‘I’m so apathetic about Everton’, I never thought ‘I want us to lose so this clown gets fired’ I never thought ‘we’re going down’. There weren’t many times that I thought the players didn’t care under Moyes. Every game you could go into thinking ‘we’ve got a chance’ even if it didn’t work out.

Since then there’s been numerous times i’ve thought ‘how many will it be this time?’

Basically Moyes was a complete godsend during a period we should have gone down (everyone else did). Since then we’ve behaved like any other bottom 14 club hiring crap managers and letting gh buy crap players.

Hope under Moyes?

Hope for what? A game of decent football once a season and the 7th place trophy?

It was 'kin grim.

 

[davek]

We couldn't defend our fitness was shocking and we lost so many goals in the last ten minutes because of it. His play was boring and his interviews were complete bull. The players didn't play for him and the crowd didn't like him... nobody in the prem offered him another job and he has had one good season in his whole career. That season was because he hadn't had enough time to destroy Moyes defence. Worst home record in our history and is the only manager to sign alcaraz and kone TWICE.

Fitness usually is a probl;em when you inherit Dads Army off the previous manager who left him a time bomb in that respect.

He came in and got proper football out of that dour bunch...akin to plaiting sawdust.