Current Affairs How do we tackle terrorism?

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Woolverhampton_Blue said:
I've quoted you in here mate because it's more appropriate than derailing the other thread.

I'm afraid that's not entirely true. They are Muslims, and don't do it without finding justification in their religious texts, they just cherry pick the bits that tie into their agenda. This then causes stigma against the majority of Muslims who don't believe such acts are permissable and lead peaceful lives. That's not unique to Islam, it's a problem for lots of religions and ideologies.

Completely agree with your last paragraph, it's on all of us to find a solution, not just pass the buck and claim it's a problem that the Muslim community must deal with.
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Yes it is on all of us to find a solution.
 
Encouraging people to speak out seems to be a big problem. I don't believe there are masses of people in the UK or other Western countries wanting this happening to children. But maybe that's the problem, I just don't understand and that's where the problem lies?
 
peteblue said:
Indeed.....it's like the previous suggestion that christian children should visit mosques....why? christian children are not the ones growing up into terrorists. Perhaps if someone suggested that children of the Islamic faith should visit christian churches then ISIS terrorists may stop coming from out of the Islamic faith.....but we will do what we always do, blame ourselves......
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Because maybe the children of today are those who become the leaders of tomorrow mate

Or we could let the kids grow up getting their understanding of the world via Rupert Murdoch, Call of Duty and Twitter xenophobes.
 
SerenityNigh said:
I would guess it's a little more nuanced than this, but your second comment is more on point than the first. Support for the Israeli state plays a big role in the current tensions between Western and Arabic nations. These issues are prior to the bombings by the West, prior to Bush I's invasion of Iraq/defense of Kuwait, prior to the 1979 Iranian revolution, prior to the six-day war, prior to the formation of the political state of Israel after WWII... do we start at the Crusades or look before that as well?

Placing blame on a single event is wrong, and looking for which events sparked the most fire is misleading. These tensions are slow-burning. The best efforts are at putting out the fires/tensions, and working with most recent events is probably the best place to start, but it's clearly a difficult task.
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Balfour deceleration and the subsequent founding of the state of Israel is the fuse to the powder keg - if any one incident was
 
ilikecheese said:
The frustrating thing about the whole situation is we created the problem and continue to be the problem...yet finger point that Islam is the problem.
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We didn't create it. We exacerbated it. Two completely different things. Your version of events legitimises kids being killed in concert halls. We must never legitimise those abhorrent subhuman pieces of trash.
 
A person who commits suicide is someone lonely, someone mentally unstable and usually crying out for help. They need taking care of as there is a possibility they could recover from whatever sickness is troubling them. They are probably kind people and wouldn't harm another human being as they tragically want to end their OWN life, and probably not with a bomb. I have sympathy for people with a sickness that would lead them to that awful fatality.


I hate the phrase Suicide Bomber. A person who walks into a crowd of people, strangers, families, teenagers or children, with an intent to kill them, is nothing but a coward, a sadistic person with no morals and someone who has a complete disregard for human life and freedom. A psychopath, who's is nothing but a mass murderer. A terrorist.


Putting the word SUICIDE infront of the word BOMBER is utterly ridiculous. Do they demand or deserve sympathy? No way. They dont even deserve to die, and they absolutely get away with the heinous crime they commit by chickening out and taking their own life along with many innocent others. Classing them as a victim of suicide is not right.


There should be NO such term as a Suicide Bomber. Its wrong. Cowardly MURDERERS the lot of them.
 
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orly said:
Education and transparency for me. More school tours of mosques and spread greater knowledge of how similar religions are.
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This for me.
I'm old now but I remember when I was a kid and older people would use racist words, I never used to think anything about it. But as you get older you realise how wrong it was and so you teach your kids. If my daughter hears anything racist today she is horrified, this is all through education and teaching kids that we are all the same regardless of colour, beliefs or in this case religion.
It won't happen overnight but if we don't educate people, especially children, then our indifferences will remain and so these killings will go on and on and on.

I do wish the Muslim community would do more though, the silence at times like this is deafening.
Having said that, I've known loads of Muslims and spent years in the Middle East, I'm here now writing this, and I know for sure that they are as horrified by things like as we are.
I think it's worth bearing in mind that there are over a billion Muslims on the planet and a tiny tiny fraction of them are full of hate.
This is why I think that eventually education, combined with compassion and tolerance will eventually win the day.

By the way, I won't reply to any comments, not that I think anyone is right or wrong in their thinking, it's just that like most, I'm too angry to think straight.
 
nsno-chris said:
Mankind will always fight over something.

Land, Religion, Money....mankind is the problem and it will never be tackled.
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Much as I hate to do it, I tend to agree. We are a virus, a plague. In history our advances have been geared toward three things - lengthening our lifespan, extending our reach and destruction of anything and everything including ourselves.

Maybe I am just hopeless today due to the senseless murder of innocents, but we do seem to be the problem.

The only solution might be some sort of greater good. I used to believe in that, in the idea that I could find something good, some redeeming quality in anyone I might meet. That gets harder and harder.

Still, we have to try to find hope. "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things"
 
Debaser said:
A person who commits suicide is someone lonely, someone mentally unstable and usually crying out for help. They need taking care of as there is a possibility they could recover from whatever sickness is troubling them. They are probably kind people and wouldn't harm another human being as they tragically want to end their OWN life, and probably not with a bomb. I have sympathy for people with a sickness that would lead them to that awful fatality.


I hate the phrase Suicide Bomber. A person who walks into a crowd of people, strangers, families, teenagers or children, with an intent to kill them, is nothing but a coward, a sadistic person with no morals and someone who has a complete disregard for human life and freedom. A psychopathic a*****e, who's is nothing but a mass murderer. A terrorist.


Putting the word SUICIDE infront of the word BOMBER is utterly ridiculous. Do they demand or deserve sympathy? No way. They dont even deserve to die, and they absolutely get away with the heinous crime they commit by chickening out and taking their own life along with many innocent others. Classing them as a victim of suicide is not right.


There should be NO such term as a Suicide Bomber. Its wrong. Cowardly MURDERERS the f*****g lot of them.
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It's the correct use of the word mate, the dictionary doesn't differentiate degrees or reasons for killing yourself.
 
We have a problem with radical islam so saying it's not related to Islam is just burying our heads. We need to protect our children but show compassion and understanding. Not an easy circle to square.
 
Tubey said:
Wipe out their strongholds, don't give the ideology a physical base to spring from.

The 'guerilla war' will continue but they won't have the same flag to wave.

The Islamic 'State' needs to be obliterated.
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The problem is there is absolutely no way to due this without the slaughter of countless innocents. These cowards who so heartlessly kill innocent children also hide behind them. It is hard to justify saving innocents by killing exponentially more innocents.
 
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