Current Affairs How do we tackle terrorism?

[bluestevon]

No it isn't, it just has more checks and balances on it in the communities they operate in, because the western world is much more secular.

Christianity in itself is as open to corruption of its message in exactly the same way Islam or any religion is. See the Westboro Baptists, for example.

That's because over the last 600 years chritianity has been slowly becoming more moderate mate, as did the societies the religion prevailed in.

All culture, societies, empires and religions evolve over time and most follow a very distinct pattern of previous ones.

 

[Billy Dean]

I'm amazed there aren't more Christian extremists to be honest

That being said, the Iraq war was as close as you'll get to western powers engaging in a holy war due to bush and blairs faith

Western governments are full of them mate.

 

[bluestevon]

I'm amazed there aren't more Christian extremists to be honest

That being said, the Iraq war was as close as you'll get to western powers engaging in a holy war due to bush and blairs faith

Their has been mate, just most in the days before technology changed everything.

 

[hullefc]

I'm going to swerve this thread.

Some of the rhetoric here is appalling, and those pushing it should genuinely feel ashamed.

Mate, those advocating war, war even extreme war, war maybe refuse to recognise that it has been tried, and has been the major contributing factor in exasperating the situation in the Middle East. The so called war on terror has been an unmitigated disaster. Unfortunately, the consequence of which is being felt in the West all to often now. But the genie's out the bottle.

Ps. Don't let people's view put you off contributing.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Military action in itself hasn't caused anything, unless you go back long, long before then to CIA backing of the Mujahideen in the Afghan/Soviet War, or the Balfour Declaration - military action has merely exacerbated an existing issue because we've made stupid errors and totally misunderstood the situation in the Middle East, which has been the case for a long time.

So yes, my view is you learn from those mistakes; not just retreat into your shell and fear do anything because you made them.

Yeah the crushing of Iraq in the name of democracy and WMD's *stop laughing at the back* didn't create a single extremist did it?

You're talking out of your pipe mate.

 

[Tubey]

Yeah the crushing of Iraq in the name of democracy and WMD's *stop laughing at the back* didn't create a single extremist did it?

You're talking out of your pipe mate.

Of course it did, but it was the crusade mindset behind the action and the rampant mistakes made while doing it that was the issue, not military action in itself.

 

[chicoazul]

I'm going to swerve this thread.

Some of the rhetoric here is appalling, and those pushing it should genuinely feel ashamed.

I thank the mighty GOT that I worship for such threads as it perfectly outs the bigots.

The great thing thing about my religion is that it believes in crushing bigots until they reach the ultimate nirvana of ban.

 

[tsubaki]

I thank the mighty GOT that I worship for such threads as it perfectly puts the bigots.

The great thing thing about my religion is that it believes in crushing bigots until they reach the ultimate nirvana of ban.

 

[tsubaki]

That's because over the last 600 years chritianity has been slowly becoming more moderate mate, as did the societies the religion prevailed in.

All culture, societies, empires and religions evolve over time and most follow a very distinct pattern of previous ones.

It didn't do that by itself, it did it because people were no longer willing to accept the abuses of the Church / Churches and stood up to them.

 

[Hogwild]

Indeed, the desire for murder, violence and revenge in some here is rather sickening

Fear will do that to people - even good people. It is as dangerous, in its way, as is zealotry.

War is a horrible thing regardless. To win though, one must be willing to fight at least as hard - and as dirty - as those they are fighting. There is no such thing as an honorable war now, if there ever was.

Our problem is that how can we, as a civilized society with a human conscious, stoop to the level of those who threaten us while retaining what makes us civilized and human?

While many of those who threaten us may claim to hold certain beliefs there are vastly more good, decent people of that same religion who are in no way worthy of pain and suffering any more than the poor people the terrorists target. And these are the people that the terrorists hide behind, or perhaps more correctly use as shields.

It may be an unanswerable question. Doing nothing will undoubtedly lead to repeated, and likely more frequent, occurrences like the one this week. Doing something that actually changes anything is almost unthinkable do to the inevitable collateral loss of innocent life.

As for those espousing hatred and anger now, I understand it and would be lying if I didn't say that at times I felt the same. Still if we allow hated to blind us then we surely lose.

 

[hibbo'sclass]

I thank the mighty GOT that I worship for such threads as it perfectly outs the bigots.

The great thing thing about my religion is that it believes in crushing bigots until they reach the ultimate nirvana of ban.

In your religion, what is the definition of bigot?

 

[peteblue]

The 'troubles' in Ireland has/had everything to do with the British occupying part of Ireland. The reason they have been put on the back burner is due to the Good Friday Agreement contained in which is a snail's pace to a United Ireland.
The so called 'remove known extremists' solution was tried in occupied Ireland, and was called internment and they were locked up in Long Kesh. All this did was recruit even more people to the Republican cause. The same will happen if any UK government was daft enough to try this again with people in this country.

That's it, you carry on defending the terrorists, or freedom fighters as you would call them.......no wonder we will never defeat terrorism, there are too many willing to excuse it......oh and it's all the fault of the British again......

 

[peteblue]

In your religion, what is the definition of bigot?

Anyone who disagrees with him.......

 

[peteblue]

Indeed, the desire for murder, violence and revenge in some here is rather sickening

As is the wringing of hands and acceptance of the status quo........

 

[bazzer25]

Anyone who disagrees with him.......

You hit the nail on the head, right now we have a dangerous situation occurring throughout our higher education system in the states, people are shutting people down before they have even had a chance to speak, Berkeley being a prime example. Unfortunately these young people are going to realize that out in the real world life just doesn't work like that, you are going to meet many people who disagree with you and that's ok, what you need to be able to do is discuss, explain why you disagree, point out your views and why you have them. It doesn't mean you will persuade to change their viewpoint, but you were able to back up your cause. Unfortunately I fear these young people will not be able to do this.