Current Affairs Her majesty the Queen

[roydo]

Yeah it's a bit weird because hardly anyone has lived through such a thing. Will probably get used to a bit more in the coming years.

Its strange hearing radio folk referring to The Queen, but calling Charles King Charles III. Like it hasnt seeped into the national vocabulary just yet. That he is The King.

 

[Papa Shango]

Its strange hearing radio folk referring to The Queen, but calling Charles King Charles III. Like it hasnt seeped into the national vocabulary just yet. That he is The King.

Yeah very true.

I reckon I will still be calling him Prince Charles in about 20 years time.

 

[roydo]

Yeah very true.

I reckon I will still be calling him Prince Charles in about 20 years time.

Maybe that happened when Princess Elizabeth became Queen Elizabeth II all those years ago.

 

[peteblue]

As I understood it she was born in Nigeria and was talking about the genocide that happened there in the 60s during the Wilson government.

Buried for 50 years: Britain’s shameful role in the Biafran war | Frederick Forsyth

A million children starved to death. I’m haunted by the images I saw there – and by the complicity of the Wilson government, says author Frederick Forsyth

www.theguardian.com

Hold on. Nigeria became independent in 1960. The U.K. was not ruling it. A Nigerian civil war broke out in 1967. What has this got to do with the Queen.….

 

[BullensRoad]

It was due to be a pretty big thing for the Isle of Wight economy as they were hosting the final stage.

Probably annoyed them more tbh.

 

[PhilM]

Maybe that happened when Princess Elizabeth became Queen Elizabeth II all those years ago.

It’s likely but then, equally, while George VI’s reign was terribly short (sixteen years) it wasn’t too uncommon for kings and queens to come and go.

This has been a huge reign in term of length and as such most people have known nothing else, and perhaps the idea of another has seeped away.

The monarchy = Queen so to speak, rather than the Queen being the monarch.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Hold on. Nigeria became independent in 1960. The U.K. was not ruling it. A Nigerian civil war broke out in 1967. What has this got to do with the Queen.….

Read the article Pete,

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

No cyclists on the road? Can only be a positive in my book.

Christ I agree, does this mean I'm becoming a Royalist, unplug me from this cultist nonsense.

 

[Papa Shango]

Maybe that happened when Princess Elizabeth became Queen Elizabeth II all those years ago.

Yeah possibly.

I think all monarchs should have to pick a completely unique name. None of this II, IV stuff. Would be good fun to see them struggling to pick a name that has not been used before.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I can imagine that if I had grown up in Nigeria I’d find it very difficult to not have emotive personal bias about the genocide and also probably feel, rightly or wrongly, that the Queen could have done more behind the scenes to stop the atrocities.

I get what you are saying LL, I am just taking umbridge at her position as an academic and her pushing a personal bias. It does not sit right with me. Slavery was and still is an issue in Nigeria and not from the queen or the west. She might be better off accepting reality instead being blinded by hate. Apologies if I am sounding like a broken record ?

 

[kev]

There is a big difference between respect and actually being bothered about it though.

Again I am sure there are a lot of people who think "Oh that's a shame, I quite liked her". but it will not change the rest of their day in any real quantifiable way.

"Oh that's a shame" was exactly my thought and it wouldn't have effected the rest of my day. . . but of course it did effect the rest of my day and will continue to effect the next week or so. (against my wishes) e.g. I can't watch the TV programmes that I would normally choose, I can't attend any football match that I may have had planned etc etc.
People should show 'respect' in their own way NOT have it dictated to them.
People from across the world will see a great show of respect and mourning which will seem to be spontaneous.
In fact, it's all highly choreographed and 99% false.

 

[roydo]

It’s likely but then, equally, while George VI’s reign was terribly short (sixteen years) it wasn’t too uncommon for kings and queens to come and go.

This has been a huge reign in term of length and as such most people have known nothing else, and perhaps the idea of another has seeped away.

The monarchy = Queen so to speak, rather than the Queen being the monarch.

Thats true. I aint grieving, (I hardly grieved for my Dad who passed in Jan), had to help Mum instead. But it does feel, well, odd that she has gone, new King, all in space of a day or so.

 

[BullensRoad]

Christ I agree, does this mean I'm becoming a Royalist, unplug me from this cultist nonsense.

Imagine wanting to ride a frail structure, exposed, on a road that is 99% full of extremely heavy vehicles going 10x the speed you are.

Baffles me.

Also they wear lycra so look ridiculous

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I live in America. "Quality" over here is a very dubious statement for the majority these days, though it certainly beats out the alternatives in a lot of places worldwide.

I would also argue that what broad-based prosperity remains has a lot more to do with our government's possession of a very large number of assorted high-tech weaponry, and the resulting organization of the post-WWII international order.

And the wealth taken over by European settlers from the birth of the nation. And all that African gold you took from us after WW2 etc.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

The queen was a lady i had a lot of admiration for. I found her visit to Ireland in 2011 to be a very moving and emotional occasion for some reason. She's lived a good life though.

It was the queens ability to make every person she met, no matter their position or rank in life feel important and better about themselves, that impressed me the most about her. This really is the end of an era.