Current Affairs Harry and Meghan Part 3: I can't think of a snappy subtitle

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As great as it would be to get rid, it would only really happen if there was a peoples revelation or something (which obv won't happen). Dismantling it the legal way would take years and there are too many bootlickers.

What should happen though, is that they should be held to account much more than they are. Nonce, this and the Crown vetoing laws before they get to Parliament have all happened in the last six months to pretty much nothing.
 
She can make the claim; I can choose not to believe her. I don't think it's plausible. I think it's more plausible that she pretends to be in that frame of mind in order to manipulate.

In the context of everything they say, people need to remember that there's only one possible reason for that interview existing - their own self-publicity. There's quite literally no other reason to do the interview. Therefore, everything they say needs to be taken with a hefty pinch of salt.
As someone who has suffered two miscarriages in the past year, you're talking out of your backside. It has a huge impact on your mental wellbeing and to suggest otherwise is frankly absurd.
 
As someone who has suffered two miscarriages in the past year, you're talking out of your backside. It has a huge impact on your mental wellbeing and to suggest otherwise is frankly absurd.

Me and my partner have had three and an ectopic.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/dad-day-tomorrow.97018/page-4#post-5515615 - in case you think I plucked that out my arse.

I didn't suggest otherwise; I said I don't think it's plausible she was in that frame of mind given the context of what has happened and what's they've done.

I don't automatically believe people just because they say something for their own gain. People lie.
 
Me and my partner have had three and an ectopic.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/dad-day-tomorrow.97018/page-4#post-5515615 - in case you think I plucked that out my arse.

I didn't suggest otherwise; I said I don't think it's plausible she was in that frame of mind given the context of what has happened and what's they've done.

I don't automatically believe people just because they say something for their own gain. People lie.
Just not sure why you'd go out of your way to not believe someone when they're saying they're struggling. I mean she literally wrote an article or two talking about not only how hard miscarriages are but how people just don't talk about them. Doing a tv interview about it isn't for me, but it's their choice and I hope things work out for them.
 
Anyone can contemplate suicide; I just don't think it's plausible for her. Not because she's rich, beautiful etc. etc. but because if she had felt that way, they would have left for the US and cut ties with the Royals quicker, they wouldn't have ummed and arred about staying 'half in', they wouldn't have set up a Sussex Royal brand and meticulously planned every level of it - a pregnant woman who is suicidal would have been a time of desperation and speed, not reputation management.

It screams of someone using all the right keywords to paint themselves as the victim in order to profit off it.

I know from first hand experience that bringing in someone from a foreign country, not having their friends/family around like they used to can cause deep depression. My wife hasn't thought of suicide (as far as I know) but has had serious bouts of being utterly miserable with her situation.

The reason for not just upping sticks straight away is that we always 'give it time' to see if you still feel that way in a week/month/year. It probably took a while to build up and when she became enemy no.1 in the papers the die was cast. You got to think Harry would have probably been dragging his heels as long as possible too.

One thing I will agree on is thinking about suicide and actually going ahead and doing it is completely different. So I doubt she would have ever acted on it but she probably thought about it believing it was her only way out until Harry decided to hack the whole lot in for her.
 
Just not sure why you'd go out of your way to not believe someone when they're saying they're struggling. I mean she literally wrote an article or two talking about not only how hard miscarriages are but how people just don't talk about them. Doing a tv interview about it isn't for me, but it's their choice and I hope things work out for them.

Because I don't believe her. The claim they didn't think about money - another lie. She lies.

All their actions weren't those of people suicidal, frantic and desperate.

The "believe the victim" nonsense is exactly that - nonsense. An unsubstantiated claim is unsubstantiated until proven otherwise. And that works the other way too - she's been accused of being a bully; she was quick to dismiss that as a lie, there was no believing "their truth" with that.

I maintain that if she was pregnant and suicidal they'd have acted differently - you wouldn't have seen them wait to move to the US until the Sussex Royal brand was ready to roll, and you wouldn't see them doing a needless three hour interview with Oprah. For me, it's all a fabricated nonsense, cooked up with grains of truth for a self serving purpose - publicity for profit.
 
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