Current Affairs George Floyd and Minneapolis Unrest

[JimmyJeffers]

Is it wrong?

Playing the man and not the ball- a common tactic.

Another thing, I’m sick of hearing this ‘playing the man, not the ball’ BS. The 2 aren’t separate entities you know. What someone says in an argument, doesn’t exist in a vacuum. They have motives. Always from right wingers.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Personally think they're a bunch of virgins myself tbh

That’s incels I think mate. Antifa members get loads of action cos they strut round houseparties with tattoos of MLK on their arms. Will probably get them removed in a few years once they have decided to become racist.

 

[LinekersLegs]

https://providencemag.com/2020/06/american-aftermath-george-floyd-paganism-christianity/

That is one hell of a jump to a conclusion there!

“American law cannot bring about justice, because each blood nation has its own justice, from which marginalized blood nations can never benefit. American law is white law. Street vengeance, therefore, is the only recourse—whether we call them protests or riots. White people must die, as a just exchange for the black people who have died.“

Surely a less bloodthirsty resolution (and one indeed that many of the protestors are requesting) be a change in the law?

 

[mezzrow]

That is one hell of a jump to a conclusion there! Surely a less bloodthirsty resolution (and one indeed that many of the protestors are requesting) be a change in the law?
“American law cannot bring about justice, because each blood nation has its own justice, from which marginalized blood nations can never benefit. American law is white law. Street vengeance, therefore, is the only recourse—whether we call them protests or riots. White people must die, as a just exchange for the black people who have died.“

If the police are abolished, who will enforce the law? Did you read the whole thing? Read the whole thing.

Americans today are torn between these two distinctly different understandings of what justice entails: pagan blood payment between peoples, which treats persons as mere proxies; or liberal justice, whose foundation is, finally, the Christian understanding of persons. Paganism, let us remember, is the natural condition of man, the condition for which there is no remedy without the divine antidote that breaks in upon the natural world and informs us that justice entails more than cathartic rage that settles scores. An observer with a trained eye will see in the aftermath of George Floyd’s death an America that cannot decide between pagan justice and liberal justice, and which has settled into a dangerous and unstable intermediate arrangement having elements of both. Logic would dictate that either we go back to guiltless paganism or go forward to guilt-ridden, person-centered, liberalism. We have guilt-ridden paganism instead, another name for which is identity politics.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I must say, I have enjoyed reading posts from loads of honkies, saying there’s no such thing as institutional racism. Brilliant stuff

 

[Prevenger17]

Another thing, I’m sick of hearing this ‘playing the man, not the ball’ BS. The 2 aren’t separate entities you know. What someone says in an argument, doesn’t exist in a vacuum. They have motives. Always from right wingers.

Aye, the man and the ball are coalescing more and more these days into some sort of grotesque man-ball. Debunkology's posts read like he was a bubble child who was forced to listen to nothing but Ben Shapiro podcasts for 10 years as part of a social experiment.

 

[LinekersLegs]

If the police are abolished, who will enforce the law? Did you read the whole thing? Read the whole thing.

Americans today are torn between these two distinctly different understandings of what justice entails: pagan blood payment between peoples, which treats persons as mere proxies; or liberal justice, whose foundation is, finally, the Christian understanding of persons. Paganism, let us remember, is the natural condition of man, the condition for which there is no remedy without the divine antidote that breaks in upon the natural world and informs us that justice entails more than cathartic rage that settles scores. An observer with a trained eye will see in the aftermath of George Floyd’s death an America that cannot decide between pagan justice and liberal justice, and which has settled into a dangerous and unstable intermediate arrangement having elements of both. Logic would dictate that either we go back to guiltless paganism or go forward to guilt-ridden, person-centered, liberalism. We have guilt-ridden paganism instead, another name for which is identity politics.

Have to admit I’m having a real hard time with framing such as “Against the backdrop of pagan history, Christianity is revolutionary, not evolutionary. The evolution of paganism, had it occurred, would have brought about novel forms of cathartic rage toward other peoples.” but I’ll try,

 

[Papa Shango]

I must say, I have enjoyed reading posts from loads of honkies, saying there’s no such thing as institutional racism. Brilliant stuff

Some of the stuff that has sneaked out on here (and elsewhere) is absolutely staggering.

Been a good card marking exercise anyway.

 

[Kiwi]

Aye, the man and the ball are coalescing more and more these days into some sort of grotesque man-ball. Debunkology's posts read like he was a bubble child who was forced to listen to nothing but Ben Shapiro podcasts for 10 years as part of a social experiment.

The sad thing is that any poor child indoctrinated in that manner would actually still end up as a far more empathetic, intelligent and functional human being than @Debunkology

 

[Prevenger17]

Have to admit I’m having a real hard time with framing such as “Against the backdrop of pagan history, Christianity is revolutionary, not evolutionary. The evolution of paganism, had it occurred, would have brought about novel forms of cathartic rage toward other peoples.” but I’ll try,

Aye @mezzrow, you post some weird stuff man

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Some of the stuff that has sneaked out on here (and elsewhere) is absolutely staggering.

Been a good card marking exercise anyway.

I have witnessed various forms of institutional racism, from a place I worked at binning applications from people with foreign sounding names, to an Asian mate always getting stopped at customs. Unreal. I imagine many of the same lads were admonishing labour for antisemitism. I can’t believe they can leave the house each day unaided

 

[Moomin]

No. What has that got to do with it though? Do you have to be black to have an opinion on racism?

Smell the white privilege from your posts.

 

[mezzrow]

Have to admit I’m having a real hard time with framing such as “Against the backdrop of pagan history, Christianity is revolutionary, not evolutionary. The evolution of paganism, had it occurred, would have brought about novel forms of cathartic rage toward other peoples.” but I’ll try,

Forgiveness is a major theme throughout the ministry of Jesus. The passage in Matthew 6:14-15 is a continuation of Matthew 6:12. It is as if Jesus finishes the prayer and then has an addendum to the prayer. He states, For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Jesus does not imply that His forgiveness is conditional but God’s forgiveness is founded in His grace. The basis of this request is that we can extend forgiveness to others in the same way that God extends forgiveness to us.

This is revolutionary.

 

[Papa Shango]

No. What has that got to do with it though? Do you have to be black to have an opinion on racism?

You are entitled to have any wrong opinion you want to have.

 

[Zezti]

No. What has that got to do with it though? Do you have to be black to have an opinion on racism?

So you're not black, and therefore would never experience racial discrimination that black people can exerience, yet claim skin colour wouldn't matter whether someone gets a job. It shouldn't, but unfortunately it does.