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The majority of abortions in 2019 took place early in gestation: 92.7% of abortions were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (6.2%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (<1.0%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.

Not to mention that a lot of the rules that GOP put in for abortions, eg requiring scans/wait times/restricting abortion providers/no funding etc, meant that women were forced to delay the procedure as they jumped through hoops making the procedure more dangerous for them.
A rather large percentage of the abortions that take place between 14-20 weeks' gestation is due to finances (lack of them or delays in insurance).
 
A rather large percentage of the abortions that take place between 14-20 weeks' gestation is due to finances (lack of them or delays in insurance).
The simultaneous (pre Dobbs) refrain of “we’re going to make it as hard as possible for you to get an abortion” and “how dare you have an abortion when the fetus is more developed than a few cells“ was both gross and cynical.
 
There probably isn’t a single state in the entire union in which yesterday’s ruling enjoys majority support. It’s underwater everywhere. The reason Republicans drove so hard on this issue in spite of it being an overall political loser is that it was something they could raise boatloads of cash off of.

Also, funny old thing about America. It’s not a true democracy, but a democratic republic. That’s how Republicans have exploited loophole after loophole for the past 40 years and, aside from the current two year cycle where they are currently paying the price for supporting a historically awful presidential candidate, have installed themselves into minority rule. They’ve received the most votes in exactly ONE nationwide election since the end of the Cold War.
I think I agree with a lot of the people with the fact that the senate system is broke. I don't agree with the fact that each state gets 2 federal senators, which makes a state like Wyoming have equal voice as California, which isn't very good for our country's wellbeing. But there should be no issue with the electoral college. The electoral college is what keeps our union intact and strong to this day.

I think you are very wrong about the "single state" point. I have friends on my Facebook from these red states and there appears to be a lot of support for the SCOTUS decision. The opinions on here, reddit and twitter are echo chambers and don't really reflect what a lot of people believe. Remember what Trump used to always say ? The silent majority ? Although its not the majority but I would say that a lot of conservative views aren't readily available online.

Let me ask you a question, if a state like Utah wishes to ban abortion and this move is supported by the residents of the state, is it fair for that state to ban abortion? I would say 100% yes.
 
One of my mate's girlfriend's has a coil, which is one of the most reliable forms of birth control. Yet two months ago, she discovered she was pregnant.

They're both 24, living in London, and are not able to financially support a child, neither are they ready for it at this time of their lives. She has a form of contraception that works in 99.4% of cases yet she was one of the .6% of cases where it failed. They decided to abort. I'm sure it was a very hard decision for both of them, but they decided to do it because they thought it was for the best.

You've shown your true colours here with that post btw. Because you've been claiming it's all about 'the will of the people' when actually you just don't think people should have the right to abort, clearly.
I appreciate this story but at the same time, I felt sad reading this.

Your friend is 24 and living in London, and most likely has a job. I'm sorry but your friend isn't a 16 year old, but 24 is a grown adult. In the 90s, 24 was the average age to have children and get married. Plus, the UK is pretty generous to new parents and they give out handouts to look after the financial wellbeing of families. I'm pretty sure your friend and his girlfriend are well paid professionals , am I right ? So what was actually holding them back?

You post those probability figures but maybe its worth remembering if the probability of her falling pregnant was incredibly miniscule yet became pregnant , maybe that's a strong message from God?
 
I appreciate this story but at the same time, I felt sad reading this.

Your friend is 24 and living in London, and most likely has a job. I'm sorry but your friend isn't a 16 year old, but 24 is a grown adult. In the 90s, 24 was the average age to have children and get married. Plus, the UK is pretty generous to new parents and they give out handouts to look after the financial wellbeing of families. I'm pretty sure your friend and his girlfriend are well paid professionals , am I right ? So what was actually holding them back?

You post those probability figures but maybe its worth remembering if the probability of her falling pregnant was incredibly miniscule yet became pregnant , maybe that's a strong message from God?
Do you have any idea how much it costs to live in London? Yes, they both have jobs. But they both pay about £1k a month in rent and bills. They don't want a child - not yet - which is why they use contraception. The contraception failed, through no fault of their own.

We're not all ridiculous religious lunatics over here mate. God doesn't exist, he's a figment of your imagination and I wish you the best with it. But he had nothing to do with her coil failing and even less to do with them taking the very tough decision not to have a child just yet.
 
I think I agree with a lot of the people with the fact that the senate system is broke. I don't agree with the fact that each state gets 2 federal senators, which makes a state like Wyoming have equal voice as California, which isn't very good for our country's wellbeing. But there should be no issue with the electoral college. The electoral college is what keeps our union intact and strong to this day.

I think you are very wrong about the "single state" point. I have friends on my Facebook from these red states and there appears to be a lot of support for the SCOTUS decision. The opinions on here, reddit and twitter are echo chambers and don't really reflect what a lot of people believe. Remember what Trump used to always say ? The silent majority ? Although its not the majority but I would say that a lot of conservative views aren't readily available online.

Let me ask you a question, if a state like Utah wishes to ban abortion and this move is supported by the residents of the state, is it fair for that state to ban abortion? I would say 100% yes.
Hard disagree about the electoral college. As a resident of a state that votes 65% Republican (and growing), I’ll never cast a meaningful vote for the president of this country in my life. That sucks.

The “Silent Majority” is a load of BS, unless of course you define “silent” as “non-voter”. Otherwise, Democrats wouldn’t have consistently received the most votes in national elections for the past 3 1/2 decades.

As to your final question, no, I don’t think individual states should have the ability to deny American citizens of their basic civil rights.
 
Read this:



This was a bill signed in 2019.
So…it expanded third trimester abortions from “when necessary to save the life of the mother” to “when the mother’s life or health was at risk or if the fetus was non-viable”. That’s hardly vouching for full-term abortions, much less feminists dancing in the streets after enduring the whole pregnancy just for s*it’s and giggles, and then aborting the baby at the last minute as you described.
 
I think I agree with a lot of the people with the fact that the senate system is broke. I don't agree with the fact that each state gets 2 federal senators, which makes a state like Wyoming have equal voice as California, which isn't very good for our country's wellbeing. But there should be no issue with the electoral college. The electoral college is what keeps our union intact and strong to this day.
This must be from the Perot School of Civics.
 
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