You can be a racist and not be a nazi... Calling someone a racist doesn't 'diminish' the tag of nazism as they aren't the same thing.
In fact, that's the point steve was actually making.
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You can be a racist and not be a nazi... Calling someone a racist doesn't 'diminish' the tag of nazism as they aren't the same thing.
In fact, that's the point steve was actually making.
No, it remains an utterly stupid concept. Jones voted against a 20 week abortion ban plenty of civilized and advanced countries would support. Hypothetically, if abortion were a top issue for me, I'm expected, under your worldview, to vote for someone I find morally abhorrent and who devalues human life because it's not enough simply to not vote for Moore.
I'll be blunt, the concept is self-serving and neither you nor Pittsburgh would support it if someone other than you was the arbiter of which political candidates are so reprehensible that a vote for the opposition becomes a moral obligation.
I'll make it simple.
Would you ever vote for a Democrat?
And if so, under what scenario?
What? Of course you can be.
I reject the notion of refusing to distinguish between practicing Nazis and people who may be racist because they said things I subjective find to be racially incendiary. If you or Steve don't, fine, but I find it to be a dangerous practice that will most likely be used for political purposes (and already is).
Sure. If I thought a Democrat was reasonably reflective of my beliefs and my value system.
Or I'll even use the scenarios we're talking about. If this Nazi guy was running against Doug Jones, I might vote for Jones rather than stay home. Especially if I thought the Nazi might win. In reality, Jones would win easily and I'd be able to sit it out.
I'm sure that's offensive because in that scenario I raise the possibility of not voting for Jones over a Nazi, but so be it.
To be blunt, what a complete load.
Ok then. I didn't realise there were different levels of racism my bad. I thought all racism was same.
Also your example is hilarious. That makes you a skeptic not a racist. Unless of course when giving your opinions on said religion you throw in hate and disparaging remarks about Muslims. If it comes from hate then yes. Otherwise no its not racist.
Not sure anyone would call you racist for not believing in their religion though
Thank you haha!!
You or someone else listed it as a sign of Moore's bigotry, I think.
And don't be intellectually obtuse, I'm not saying there are different levels of racism. I'm a racism absolutist, unlike most these days. I don't think saying a bad word makes one a racist, and I don't think disparaging people of another race necessarily does either.
I think racism is the inherent belief that your race is superior or that another race is inferior. Which, coincidentally, is what Nazis believe. Roy Moore may believe that being white makes him superior to others. Or that others of a different race are inferior. But I don't know that, and I'm not confident enough in my subjective conclusions to compare that to someone who is openly racist (the Nazi).
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I'll introduce a new topic that's very close to me geographically, and I think is on point with what we're discussing right now.
I live within a mile of a congressional district that's having a special election to replace a guy who was forced to resign. A guy who repeatedly banged the party drum of family values and anti-abortion, but was caught, red-handed, asking his mistress to get an abortion.
A guy who had the stones to defend his actions, against his repeated tweets about said family values and anti-abortion rhetoric, by saying that it didn't go against his beliefs because his staffers write on his twitter account, seemingly unaware of his platform.
Tim Murphy you vile, disgusting human being.
In the March special election, the GOP is trotting out a bible-thumping anti-abortion cardboard cutout who calls himself "Trump before Trump was Trump."
The Democrats are lining up a young guy, a Marine, who will vow to work together with REpublicans, and is very pointedly not turning this into a left vs right war.
It's a district that leans right, but has a history of going Democrat from time to time. This will be very interesting. Will people blindly vote for what they want to hear, although the last guy lied to you repeatedly about what his core beliefs were? Or will they at least think about the candidates before voting?
This special election will tell us a lot about the November general election.
I live within a mile of a congressional district that's having a special election to replace a guy who was forced to resign. A guy who repeatedly banged the party drum of family values and anti-abortion, but was caught, red-handed, asking his mistress to get an abortion.
A guy who had the stones to defend his actions, against his repeated tweets about said family values and anti-abortion rhetoric, by saying that it didn't go against his beliefs because his staffers write on his twitter account, seemingly unaware of his platform.
Tim Murphy you vile, disgusting human being.
In the March special election, the GOP is trotting out a bible-thumping anti-abortion cardboard cutout who calls himself "Trump before Trump was Trump."
The Democrats are lining up a young guy, a Marine, who will vow to work together with REpublicans, and is very pointedly not turning this into a left vs right war.
It's a district that leans right, but has a history of going Democrat from time to time. This will be very interesting. Will people blindly vote for what they want to hear, although the last guy lied to you repeatedly about what his core beliefs were? Or will they at least think about the candidates before voting?
This special election will tell us a lot about the November general election.
What? No one called Moore a Nazi we called him a racist.
I compared him to Jones because like Jones he is racist not that he is a Nazi.
Either way when i compared him to Jones i was making the point that the GOP defend guys like him Guys who have made racist comments or who have been accused of other crimes.
To the highlighted how can you say this and then post the definition of racism. Isn't disparaging another race a sign of a superior complex? Isn't that what you think is racist.
You are going to great lengths to draw a crooked line on what should be racist and what shouldn't be.
Correct.
Conor Lamb. Just watched a piece on him the other day. Looks like an upstanding citizen. Seems like a smart guy too.
Should be interesting to see how they try disparage him now he is running as a democrat.
I didn't say you called him a Nazi. I'm saying that we should be willing to distinguish a known Nazi from a suspected racist.
As to "racism," no, not necessarily. I'm going to assume you're white (don't read anything into it, it's just for example). Let's pretend I'm something other than white. If I call you a [anti-white slur] because I hate you for your politics and I want to hurt your feelings, that makes me a jerk, not necessarily a racist.
Now, is it a sign I could be a racist? Sure. Should you give people the benefit of the doubt that they're not racist in that scenario? I don't care, if you act like a jerk I don't care if someone calls you a racist. But my point is that it's probably not all that great of an indicator that someone is a genuine racist.
Now, if you're a liberal, you might reject my narrow definition of racism outright. You might think it doesn't account for institutionalized racism and that saying "America was great even despite slavery" makes one a racist regardless of the concept of racial superiority. I would disagree, but that's a different discussion than the above (which is premised on the traditional definition of racism).
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