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Dunno, didn't watch it all. Youre kinda clutching at straws here, pointing out some sort of media bias about interviewing a nazi

I don't care if they interview him or not. But if they're reporting that a GOP candidate is a Nazi, you don't think it's relevant information to include the fact that the party doesn't support him, previously filed an elections claim to keep him off the ballot and has warred against his candidacy a couple of times over the years?

I'm sure you'd love to portray the GOP as Nazi's for political purposes, but I'm also certain you find that to be relevant information that should be included in trying to paint the GOP with him, yes?
 
I don't care if they interview him or not. But if they're reporting that a GOP candidate is a Nazi, you don't think it's relevant information to include the fact that the party doesn't support him, previously filed an elections claim to keep him off the ballot and has warred against his candidacy a couple of times over the years?

I'm sure you'd love to portray the GOP as Nazi's for political purposes, but I'm also certain you find that to be relevant information that should be included in trying to paint the GOP with him, yes?

It doesn't matter whether they give him backing or not. Which are only words by the way. Isn't he still running? They couldn't find someone else to run against him if they meant what they said?

He is running as a Republican and if he wins they will be grateful for his vote. As long as they beat the democrats.

It's easy to say words to say you are not supporting him but realistically they supported Moore and Trump even tweeted that they needed his vote.

No one is suggesting the GOP are Nazis.
 
It doesn't matter whether they give him backing or not. Which are only words by the way. Isn't he still running? They couldn't find someone else to run against him if they meant what they said?

He is running as a Republican and if he wins they will be grateful for his vote. As long as they beat the democrats.

It's easy to say words to say you are not supporting him but realistically they supported Moore and Trump even tweeted that they needed his vote.

No one is suggesting the GOP are Nazis.

a) They couldn't. They tried unsuccessfully in previous cycles. It's a solidly blue district, and nobody wants to waste time on it.
b) They won't be grateful for his vote. Practically, he won't win anyway, but if he did he'd have to do it without any GOP support or money, and there is zero chance they'd let him caucus with the party.
c) There is no comparison to Trump or Moore. He's an actual Nazi.
d) People suggest the GOP are Nazis all the time. There is zero chance an obscure congressional candidate would get interviewed by CNN if he were running as a Democrat. He's being interviewed solely for the implication that he's connected to the GOP.
 
a) They couldn't. They tried unsuccessfully in previous cycles. It's a solidly blue district, and nobody wants to waste time on it.
b) They won't be grateful for his vote. Practically, he won't win anyway, but if he did he'd have to do it without any GOP support or money, and there is zero chance they'd let him caucus with the party.
c) There is no comparison to Trump or Moore. He's an actual Nazi.
d) People suggest the GOP are Nazis all the time. There is zero chance an obscure congressional candidate would get interviewed by CNN if he were running as a Democrat. He's being interviewed solely for the implication that he's connected to the GOP.

The partisan in me would secretly hope he wins to see the convulsions and carnage and eventual acceptance of folks in the GOP much like they did with Moore. Make no mistake Trump played the same cards...just a with a bit more subtlety.

The human in me hopes he loses in a landslide. Still can't believe Moore got so much support...but I guess supporting a Trump numbs the soul for some.
 
Disagree there. The legislative and judicial branches both wield considerable power. So when Paul Ryan is trying to rally his party to actually vote for one of Trumps wild spur-of-the-moment promises, I think it is very eye opening. Trump just cant sign EO's to get his way. He still needs to abide by the system.

Remember, that those EO's, just like laws created in the legislative branch, are still subject to judicial review and can be overturned if the orders lack support by statute or the Constitution.
I think what you mean is the legislative branch is SUPPOSED to wield significant power.

Unfortunately Ryan lacks that bony thing that’s supposed to run down the centre of a person.
 
a) They couldn't. They tried unsuccessfully in previous cycles. It's a solidly blue district, and nobody wants to waste time on it.
b) They won't be grateful for his vote. Practically, he won't win anyway, but if he did he'd have to do it without any GOP support or money, and there is zero chance they'd let him caucus with the party.
c) There is no comparison to Trump or Moore. He's an actual Nazi.

d) People suggest the GOP are Nazis all the time. There is zero chance an obscure congressional candidate would get interviewed by CNN if he were running as a Democrat. He's being interviewed solely for the implication that he's connected to the GOP.
Moore:
1) said homosexuality should be illegal
2) said people should be barred from serving in Congress if they weren’t the right religion
3) said America was last “great” when slavery was present
4) stuck with the racist lie that Obama’s wasn’t born in the US
5) called Islam “a false religion”
6) furthered the lie that US communities are under sharia law
7) suggested the abolition of every amendment after the 10th
Called native Americans and Asian Americans “reds and yellows”
8) was credibly accused by multiple women of sexual assault and by one of making sexual advances towards her when she was a child.

And the GOP rallied round, raised funds for him, endorsed him... So I wouldn't hold much faith in what levels the party won't lower themselves to at the moment*.

The one thing that might make you correct is the very fact that he won't win that district. If it was a viable seat, I suspect the GOP's response would be significantly different

I say at the moment because the GOP wasn't always like this. It used to be a legitimate and sincere institution (albeit one I generally disagreed with in policy terms). They've gone completely off the rails over the last decade or so.
 
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I don't care if they interview him or not. But if they're reporting that a GOP candidate is a Nazi, you don't think it's relevant information to include the fact that the party doesn't support him, previously filed an elections claim to keep him off the ballot and has warred against his candidacy a couple of times over the years?

I'm sure you'd love to portray the GOP as Nazi's for political purposes, but I'm also certain you find that to be relevant information that should be included in trying to paint the GOP with him, yes?

Of course CNN should point out that the republican party have denounced this fella
What concerns me is that your first reaction was to call out CNN.
Not to question why a Nazi wants to run on a Republican ticket,
Not to question why the republicans couldn't muster one person to run against a nazi,
Not to question how the republicans dont have a concerted effort to nominate a write in a candidate to beat the nazi in their primaries.

But here we are, Nazis out in the open and using the republican system.
Apparently there are some good ones according to our republican POTUS

Sorry mate, your party is rotten.
 
a) They couldn't. They tried unsuccessfully in previous cycles. It's a solidly blue district, and nobody wants to waste time on it.
b) They won't be grateful for his vote. Practically, he won't win anyway, but if he did he'd have to do it without any GOP support or money, and there is zero chance they'd let him caucus with the party.
c) There is no comparison to Trump or Moore. He's an actual Nazi.
d) People suggest the GOP are Nazis all the time. There is zero chance an obscure congressional candidate would get interviewed by CNN if he were running as a Democrat. He's being interviewed solely for the implication that he's connected to the GOP.

Can't they tell this guy that he cannot run as a Republican? He can run as an independent. Why not insist he does? Why not actually says hes not welcome and they do not want him running as a Republican.

b) Really so if it came down to won vote and he was in and had said vote they would be disappointed haha!! Come on now haha!!

c) As in comparison. Trump was happy to have an extra vote with Moore despite the numerous allegations and his stance on a number of issues highlighted above by other posters. Several GOP senators and congressmen have come out and said the same thing publicly others simply say nothing.

d) No they don't. They just can't understand why the party keeps accepting guys who clearly are racist and homophobic and who mistreat women. The president pardoned a guy who is racist. None of the GOP came out and said that was a bad idea. In fact they are now supporting his run. Joe Arpaio.

Also come on seriously you obviously don't watch CNN do you? They interview everyone especially the controversial ones because it makes for good ratings. Even the ones on the left.
 
Moore:
1) said homosexuality should be illegal
2) said people should be barred from serving in Congress if they weren’t the right religion
3) said America was last “great” when slavery was present
4) stuck with the racist lie that Obama’s wasn’t born in the US
5) called Islam “a false religion”
6) furthered the lie that US communities are under sharia law
7) suggested the abolition of every amendment after the 10th
Called native Americans and Asian Americans “reds and yellows”
8) was credibly accused by multiple women of sexual assault and by one of making sexual advances towards her when she was a child.

And the GOP rallied round, raised funds for him, endorsed him... So I wouldn't hold much faith in what levels the party won't lower themselves to at the moment*.

The one thing that might make you correct is the very fact that he won't win that district. If it was a viable seat, I suspect the GOP's response would be significantly different

I say at the moment because the GOP wasn't always like this. It used to be a legitimate and sincere institution (albeit one I generally disagreed with in policy terms). They've gone completely off the rails over the last decade or so.

Everything I've said is correct.

The GOP is a clownshow, but to the extent you're saying that as though the DNC isn't -- LOL. Moore is an imbecile and I'm glad Alabama didn't elect him.
 
Can't they tell this guy that he cannot run as a Republican? He can run as an independent. Why not insist he does? Why not actually says hes not welcome and they do not want him running as a Republican.

b) Really so if it came down to won vote and he was in and had said vote they would be disappointed haha!! Come on now haha!!

c) As in comparison. Trump was happy to have an extra vote with Moore despite the numerous allegations and his stance on a number of issues highlighted above by other posters. Several GOP senators and congressmen have come out and said the same thing publicly others simply say nothing.

d) No they don't. They just can't understand why the party keeps accepting guys who clearly are racist and homophobic and who mistreat women. The president pardoned a guy who is racist. None of the GOP came out and said that was a bad idea. In fact they are now supporting his run. Joe Arpaio.

Also come on seriously you obviously don't watch CNN do you? They interview everyone especially the controversial ones because it makes for good ratings. Even the ones on the left.

A) I really don't know the rules. I'd like to think so, but considering they had to sue last time (or use the state administrative process) to keep him out, I'm not sure that's the case. The most likely answer is that nobody pays attention to this district, so while he's collecting his signatures and filing his paperwork, nobody is really following his progress.

B) If he won I guarantee you with 100% certainty they wouldn't let him caucus with the party. The idea that the GOP would let a literal neo-nazi join the caucus is ridiculous, even for people predisposed to believing in the inherent evil of conservatives.

C) Moore is a buffoon. This guy is an actual Nazi.

D) Yes, they do. I could sit here and tell you how I agree that Moore should have gotten the boot, how the Porter thing was mishandled, etc., but unless that comes in a conversation where people on the left go "we mishandled Clinton, and probably shouldn't have ran someone (HRC) who disparaged his likely victims" as well as "it's shameful that Barack Obama met with LOUIS FARRAKHAN, was closely associated with a former terrorist, etc." then it's not worth my time.

I'm happy to discuss the faults of the conservative movement or the GOP. But I'm not one of those Republicans who is going to bash Trump to gain credibility with a liberal opponent and then listen as the person I'm conversing with justifies every single point of absurdity from the American left.
 
C) Moore is a buffoon. This guy is an actual Nazi.

Odd how you keep calling him stupid or silly or a buffoon but won't acknowledge his alleged crimes against those women.

Nazis and sex offenders go in the same book for me.

Being a nazi is no worse than molesting young girls and being a creep.

But its odd like your GOP chums you won't acknowledge the allegations against Moore.

So you don't agree with the women who accused him then? Or you do?

Also Moore is a racist. Google his speeches and there a bunch of videos where he makes racist comments and homophobic comments.

So really stop saying they are different. Neither men claim to be racist. One of them clearly more prominent about where he stands but the other has been caught out saying racist things.
 
Odd how you keep calling him stupid or silly or a buffoon but won't acknowledge his alleged crimes against those women.

Nazis and sex offenders go in the same book for me.

Being a nazi is no worse than molesting young girls and being a creep.

But its odd like your GOP chums you won't acknowledge the allegations against Moore.

So you don't agree with the women who accused him then? Or you do?

Also Moore is a racist. Google his speeches and there a bunch of videos where he makes racist comments and homophobic comments.

So really stop saying they are different. Neither men claim to be racist. One of them clearly more prominent about where he stands but the other has been caught out saying racist things.

I found the Moore accusations (some of them) credible. I didn't support Moore before then, and I didn't support him after. I probably wouldn't have voted for Doug Jones (I don't live in Alabama), but I wouldn't have gone to the polls for Moore.

McConnell spoke regularly about how Moore may face discipline/investigation if he got elected. I hope that would have been true.

But yes, they are different, and it's silly to pretend otherwise. I have no idea if all the accusations (or any) are true. I think some probably are. I think some are almost certainly lies. I think it's odd that the left didn't go into an absolute outburst when it was discovered that some of the evidence used against Moore was forged. I dislike Moore, so I didn't let that change my opinion, but it also limits the amount of "do the right thing" I'm going to accept from the left when, in general, they made no apologies for blatantly lying in an attempt to disparage Moore.
 
Moore:
1) said homosexuality should be illegal
2) said people should be barred from serving in Congress if they weren’t the right religion
3) said America was last “great” when slavery was present
4) stuck with the racist lie that Obama’s wasn’t born in the US
5) called Islam “a false religion”
6) furthered the lie that US communities are under sharia law
7) suggested the abolition of every amendment after the 10th
Called native Americans and Asian Americans “reds and yellows”
8) was credibly accused by multiple women of sexual assault and by one of making sexual advances towards her when she was a child.

And the GOP rallied round, raised funds for him, endorsed him... So I wouldn't hold much faith in what levels the party won't lower themselves to at the moment*.

The one thing that might make you correct is the very fact that he won't win that district. If it was a viable seat, I suspect the GOP's response would be significantly different

I say at the moment because the GOP wasn't always like this. It used to be a legitimate and sincere institution (albeit one I generally disagreed with in policy terms). They've gone completely off the rails over the last decade or so
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This is the point, after this Trump experiment blows up in their face.

The GOP is killing itself, and whichever of the following is the reason is irrelevant: 1) They are showing their true colours, or 2) They don't believe the hate spewing from a small(ish) segment of their base, but whatever, we will sell our soul to beat the left

If it's the former, American demographics are changing, so that breed is dying.

If it's the latter, it shows they have no spine. That will catch up with them

Either way, if the GOP doesn't get out from under the circus that is Trump and everything about Washington right now, it will come back to bite them in full force
 
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