General strike/protest

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daylightrobber said:
In A&E it almost certainly will be. If it's consultants on the front line, decision making in the more serious cases will be quicker.
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You are just digging a big hole here lad. If Doctors go on strike patients suffer. If they don't then we don't need Doctors......
 
Congen said:
So we should let them keep their very generous overtime pay which costs a fortune. A lot of doctors are now leaving Australia after finding out the grass is definitely not greener down under
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It's not very generous at all. If you actually worked out what juniors get paid per hour, it's not really that much. Put the pay aside, the Tories say they want a 24 hour/7 day service because all these extra people have died at the weekend, a fact they have never been able to back up. They aren't going to employ anymore doctors. That means if you spread out the same resource over more days then common sense tells you there will be other times in the week when there won't be enough resource. Do you really think that they'd have so much support from the medical profession if what the Tories are saying is actually fair comment and it was for the good of the NHS and the general public?
 
peteblue said:
You are just digging a big hole here lad. If Doctors go on strike patients suffer. If they don't then we don't need Doctors......
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If the strike was weeks long maybe, but they're not. Other medical professionals, including those with more expertise will still be working. Some might even have to come in on their day off.
 
Minimeister said:
It's not very generous at all. If you actually worked out what juniors get paid per hour, it's not really that much. Put the pay aside, the Tories say they want a 24 hour/7 day service because all these extra people have died at the weekend, a fact they have never been able to back up. They aren't going to employ anymore doctors. That means if you spread out the same resource over more days then common sense tells you there will be other times in the week when there won't be enough resource. Do you really think that they'd have so much support from the medical profession if what the Tories are saying is actually fair comment and it was for the good of the NHS and the general public?
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Have you actually been seriously ill or needed emergency attention at a weekend...... Illness and medical conditions do not recognise our Mon-Fri working week........
 
Minimeister said:
It's not very generous at all. If you actually worked out what juniors get paid per hour, it's not really that much. Put the pay aside, the Tories say they want a 24 hour/7 day service because all these extra people have died at the weekend, a fact they have never been able to back up. They aren't going to employ anymore doctors. That means if you spread out the same resource over more days then common sense tells you there will be other times in the week when there won't be enough resource. Do you really think that they'd have so much support from the medical profession if what the Tories are saying is actually fair comment and it was for the good of the NHS and the general public?
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Junior doctors are kind of apprentices who end up consultants, GPs etc that's when they get the excellent money
 
peteblue said:
Have you actually been seriously ill or needed emergency attention at a weekend...... Illness and medical conditions do not recognise our Mon-Fri working week........
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Again, the Tories have never been able to back up their claim and until they do I'll treat this as propaganda, a bit like the junior doctors are doing...but Jeremy Hunt must know more than the doctors eh mate? Look at them all coming out backing up his claims.....
 
peteblue said:
What you mean is you can't answer it...

So in a period of war, you would be happy for our armed forces to go on strike..........
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The nature of their profession, they're not allowed to. So why are you even asking the question? You sign up knowing that. If you don't like the terms and conditions you find alternative employment.

I would imagine that should there be a major incident requiring more doctors, during the strike, that doctors would actually choose to come in to work.
 
daylightrobber said:
If the strike was weeks long maybe, but they're not. Other medical professionals, including those with more expertise will still be working. Some might even have to come in on their day off.
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This is a very poor response. So it's about how long the strike for.......why not just 5 minutes, or an hour or half a day....a patient can die in 5 minutes.....not everyone on strike can be covered by those who chose not to......it is a self serving action and for a supposed medical profession is an absolute disgrace......there will be people who die and people who's quality of life will suffer.......and the blame rests with those 'professionals' who withdrew labour.........
 
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