General strike/protest

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These comments should be directed at Jeremy Hunt.

Of course they should. But let's not pretend that he's the one going on strike. Each and every Doctor makes up their own mind. If they do not consider this a serious decision in respect of their patients, then frankly they do not deserve support.......
 
Keep telling yourself that mate, meanwhile real people with real medical problems will be left to their own devices.......forget the politics just for one minute, put away your obvious hate for a particular government, just imagine what it will be like for the patients........
Utter tosh. There are other medical professionals who will provide medical care. If anything, as seniors/consultants etc. it's likely that the level of care will be higher.

Meanwhile i'll consider the long term future the NHS and keep my fingers crossed its still there for all of us and for our descendants. Without it, a lot more people will suffer.
 
Utter tosh. There are other medical professionals who will provide medical care. If anything, as seniors/consultants etc. it's likely that the level of care will be higher.

Meanwhile i'll consider the long term future the NHS and keep my fingers crossed its still there for all of us and for our descendants. Without it, a lot more people will suffer.

Then if the level of care will be higher, we can just sack them all........and you mention talking tosh.........
 
Overtime pay......that's it......nothing else.......

Which shows your ignorance again about this. They'll be protected for 3 years so with any luck won't feel it in their pockets if they decide to stay around. What it does mean is if their is a mass exodus to countries like Australia who do appreciate junior doctors then it'll cost the NHS a fortune covering vacancies in an already hard to recruit to profession. But not to worry, agency doctors will step in at a huge cost to the taxpayer. In the end this won't be cost neutral and has upset the most hardworking and valuable assets to our health service. Spend a day on the wards mate and then come and post. When the reason to changing your T+C's is based on absolute lies then you would have a reason to strike.
 
Why though? Is it simply that these academies aren't run by the government? Places like Harvard or Oxford aren't run by the government either, yet they're not bad teaching establishments.

(I'll ignore the fatuous Harvard/Oxford argument here since even a fool can see the difference between selective, elite, almost incomprehensibly wealthy institutions and the right every child has to a decent education in the face of government underfunding. Actually, no I won't - Shame on you, Bruce)

"These academies" are, in one very real sense, run by the government in as much as the chain of command leads straight to Whitehall. They are in no way locally accountable (something both you and I, in our different ways, value highly).

Don't kid yourself that these schools are "free" or "liberated" in any way. They are run by wholly unaccountable, antidemocratic bodies who often have no background whatsoever in education. Almost invariably, their chief executives draw enormous salaries for no discernible effect.

Let us be absolutely clear here: There is no evidence to support the idea that Academies increase children's life chances. Even the loathsome Michael Wilshaw, Chief Inspector of Ofsted, is dismissive of their worth.
 
I notice that no one has bothered to attempt to answer this question.......
Soldiers give up the right to strike when they sign up. Doctors don't. The government have tried to make it impossible for doctors (knowing that outlawing it would see the profession collapse), yet still enough doctors have lost confidence in the Health Secretary, that they speak with one voice.
 
Which shows your ignorance again about this. They'll be protected for 3 years so with any luck won't feel it in their pockets if they decide to stay around. What it does mean is if their is a mass exodus to countries like Australia who do appreciate junior doctors then it'll cost the NHS a fortune covering vacancies in an already hard to recruit to profession. But not to worry, agency doctors will step in at a huge cost to the taxpayer. In the end this won't be cost neutral and has upset the most hardworking and valuable assets to our health service. Spend a day on the wards mate and then come and post. When the reason to changing your T+C's is based on absolute lies then you would have a reason to strike.

So a patient dies.....no probs....my T & C' s were based on lies.........welcome to 2016.........
 
Soldiers give up the right to strike when they sign up. Doctors don't. The government have tried to make it impossible for doctors (knowing that outlawing it would see the profession collapse), yet still enough doctors have lost confidence in the Health Secretary, that they speak with one voice.

You didn't answer the question......
 
Which shows your ignorance again about this. They'll be protected for 3 years so with any luck won't feel it in their pockets if they decide to stay around. What it does mean is if their is a mass exodus to countries like Australia who do appreciate junior doctors then it'll cost the NHS a fortune covering vacancies in an already hard to recruit to profession. But not to worry, agency doctors will step in at a huge cost to the taxpayer. In the end this won't be cost neutral and has upset the most hardworking and valuable assets to our health service. Spend a day on the wards mate and then come and post. When the reason to changing your T+C's is based on absolute lies then you would have a reason to strike.
So we should let them keep their very generous overtime pay which costs a fortune. A lot of doctors are now leaving Australia after finding out the grass is definitely not greener down under
 
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