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Philw said:
It's not long since last season finished, but thoughts are already turned to the new season. Unfortunately it seems the opening race is set to already come a cropper due to Covid, with the Australian GP likely to be postponed until some time later in the season:

www.skysports.com

Formula 1 2021: Season-opening Australian GP set to be postponed

Australian GP was set to open 2021 season on March 21 but strict quarantine restrictions mean race is likely to be postponed until later in the year; Bahrain GP poised to become first race on March 28
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Not sure when they would fit it in, as the season is gonna be pretty packed with 22 other races on the schedule.

Pre-season test is currently set for March 2-4. Will be interesting to see how/when car launches are done this year, as there will be a lot carried over from last year, and given all the restrictions in place.

Also whilst it seems likely that the Drivers' championship fight will largely be as limp as this year, the Redbull/Perez combination might make the Constructors' fight a little more interesting, and the midfiled battle should be good in both championships.

Some lad called Tommo, who seems quite popular on the yubtubs has made his predictions here:


He had some pretty wild predictions last year. This years are a bit more sensible, but still not sure on the logic behind some of them! Still, some interesting takes in there. Personally I think Max can take the fight to Bottas and come runner-up in the WDC. Would be nice to see Perez push Valteri as well, and interesting how the new drivers, especially Vettel and Ricciardo do at their new teams. If Seb gets back to the form he showed in his younger years he might suddenly be back challenging for podiums if FI/RP/AM can keep progressing with the pink Mercedes.

Anyways, what are you lots' predictions. hopes and dreams for the upcoming season?
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@Gdog1878 good to see you back in amongst all the petrol nonces mate.
 
The binman chronicles said:
Is exactly right, just like Alonso yielded against Vettel in 2014. If you have a car on the inside they can't just dissappear and they will understeer into you unless they totally wimp out of it.

I still want to see a replay of Alonso and Ricciardo, as I'm sure at the restart Alonso did the same thing as Hamilton, he too understeered wide and Danny Ric just took a wider but ultimately faster way around and gobbled Alonso back up before they got to the Becketts/Maggots sweeps. No biggy as one driver was sensible enough and in all 3 of these that worked it was the guy on the outside that thought better of it.
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2019 aswell?
 
a couple of similar examples:

Sainz/Grosjean, same corner 2018


Vettel/Verstappen, Suzuka 2018


Stewards deemed both racing incidents and none of the drivers were punished. I do think that there is precedent that if one driver is able to carry on virtually unhindered, while the other is DNFed then it puts more onus on the stewards to hand out a penalty to the driver who is able to continue. We can debate whether that should be the case or not.
 
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evilwebby said:
a couple of similar examples:

Sainz/Grosjean, same corner 2018


Vettel/Verstappen, Suzuka 2018


Stewards deemed both racing incidents and none of the drivers were punished. I do think that there is precedent that if one driver is able to carry on virtually unhindered, while the other is DNFed then it puts more onus on the stewards to hand out a penalty to the driver who is able to continue. We can debate whether that should be the case or not.
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Verstappen could have let Hamilton take the place,as he has proven to have the much faster car he would have retaken the lead within a few laps maximum. If a driver doesn't change his line I can't see the problem,the driver who did crashed out.
 
AdamEFC said:
Anything that annoys Horner is a plus for me. Horrible little weasel of a man him.
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Racing is fine and dandy but only when they're winning because they have the fastest car and therefore they should win everything.

Really vile behaviour from them lately. These things can happen in racing, because racing is not logical, but their businesslike logic way of thinking is that because they're the fastest it's only fair if they win. Shame but this is where they are.
 
The more I look at it, the more I think Hamilton has a right to be aggrieved he got any penalty whatsoever. I think Race Control just punish any type of contact to be 'safe'.

As for people not liking Hamilton... neither do I really, in terms of his persona anyway. He's not someone it's easy to take to - very aloof, holier than thou attitude about him, composed, almost blatantly fake in his presentation as he doesn't give much away about himself. He's not someone I can imagine going out for a drink with. It's why he doesn't get the credit he deserves I think, because in terms of being a sports 'personality' he is very lacking IMO.

However, you can't deny his brilliance at his actual job. He's just absolutely superb. He is where he is on pure talent and has taken full advantage of every opportunity given to him. Sometimes you just have to put your hands up and say well done - I can't see any valid grounds to criticise him professionally; he's genuinely on the same level as Schumacher/Senna. The only debate is if he's actually the best of all time.
 
evilwebby said:
Did you watch the race? I don't understand how anyone can watch what Lewis did yesterday to come back and win that race from a seemingly impossible situation and be of the opinion that he ia not amongat the true greats in F1 history.

Yes he has been in a fantastic team, but he regulalrly does it over and over again. Turkey last year another example of his genius, keeping himself in contention while his car was not the quickest, but then unleashing an absolutely sublime stint when the car finally arrived in the sweet spot.
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Saying some is on Alonso’s level is not an insult.
 
BNJ1878 said:
Saying the are on the same playing field is insulting to Hamilton.

I can't understand the Alonso love-in people have. Solid enough, but not even in Vettel league, let alone Hamilton.
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Yeah right. Alonso would have won as many titles as Hamilton in the Mercedes.
 
BNJ1878 said:
Saying the are on the same playing field is insulting to Hamilton.

I can't understand the Alonso love-in people have. Solid enough, but not even in Vettel league, let alone Hamilton.
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He is twice the driver Vettel is/was mate. Vettel lucked out being in the right place at the right time. Alonso's character stopped him from winning more titles but he is up there with the best on driving talent.
 
JobForTheMoyes said:
Yeah right. Alonso would have won as many titles as Hamilton in the Mercedes.
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The binman chronicles said:
He is twice the driver Vettel is/was mate. Vettel lucked out being in the right place at the right time. Alonso's character stopped him from winning more titles but he is up there with the best on driving talent.
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Right, you both make the same point.

If, if if.

He doesn't get the plum seats because for whatever talent he showed early on, he scuppered his own career be being a bit petulant/not a team player.

Yeah, Vettel got lucky. But he was quick enough to make the most of his luck.

As for he'd win as many titles as Hamilton in the Merc? We'll never know.
 
BNJ1878 said:
Right, you both make the same point.

If, if if.

He doesn't get the plum seats because for whatever talent he showed early on, he scuppered his own career be being a bit petulant/not a team player.

Yeah, Vettel got lucky. But he was quick enough to make the most of his luck.

As for he'd win as many titles as Hamilton in the Merc? We'll never know.
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No, he scuppered his chances by going to the wrong teams at the wrong times. Nothing to do with driving.
Hamilton on the other hand has moved to the right teams at the right times.
 
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