Everton are small time...

[orly]

Let’s ignore them though because that spoils the argument!

No, we just debunked it earlier in the thread

 

[toffeemax]

If Unsworth gets the job, then the club consider him to be the best man for the job.

He's built a very good reputation at the club for his work, notably the PL2 title last season, and whilst he shouldn't get the gig out of sentimentality, to assume that's the prime reason he's being considered for the role is disrespecting the work the man has done at EFC.

There's nothing 'small time' about him being considered for the full time role, the mentality of some Blues is becoming cringeworthy imo.

It’s almost like paranoia. Focusing on anything that could be seen as small time and exploiting it!! I agree some stuff can be perceived as that but I read about kenwright still being near the board as small time, the bloke is the second largest shareholder and knows the club and their values and gained significantly investment recently. How is that small time?!

 

[Death]

Sensationalist headline. I had you down for much better than that. You deviant.

 

[neil999]

Let’s ignore them though because that spoils the argument!

barca and real do everything very differently to other clubs

 

[blueblue]

or are they?

I've been reading the Unsworth thread this morning and have to say I agree with the majority of what @orly has been eluding to, or at least I think he's been eluding to.

I'm a massive fan of David Unsworth as a person, who knows I might even be a huge fan of his managerial ability in a few games, but who knows. He's saying all the right things, using all the usual buzzwords about history, big club etc, but there's something that bothers me about it. It's bordering on a scripted theatrical performance that Bill Kenwright has written. I mean he said all that and then played a CB pairing of Jagielka and Williams and an utterly useless Rooney.

We've just lost and been knocked out of the cup but there's the tweet @orly highlighted celebrating a debut and the return of the ginger fella with a nationality disorder. I can't think of another top club that deals with this sort of stuff in the same small time cringey way as Everton. We over hype minor events, we team up with Umbro, SportPesa and Angry Birds and that's before we even get to the kitbag deal.

Why would an organisation that has an ounce of sense keep Bill Kenwright and Robert Elstone around? You could argue that it's a transitional period but it would appear that they have just as much involvement at the club now as they did before Farhad came along, if not more.

We have grand ambitions, or so we're told, but everything about how we communicate via social media and the deals we sign suggest anything but that. The twitter reads like some die hard blue that refuses to hear a bad word said about the club, rather than a professionally run club employing a social media expert.

If we truly are serious about being a big club then we need to knock this stuff on the head and start behaving like a professional outfit.

He has the players that he has to work with. I am sure that he has his own opinions about some of the players at his disposal but what kind of a manager would say that publicly.
He has to be positive, he has to create a positive atmosphere in his squad, he has to get players who are underperforming back to believing they are worth the money paid for them and believing they improve the team .

Listen to Guardiola, Mourinho, Weger, Zidane... they rarely say anything of substance either.

 

[toffeemax]

barca and real do everything very differently to other clubs

But we want to be on their level as they’re big time, so why should we not follow their lead? Doesn’t make sense

 

[neil999]

But we want to be on their level as they’re big time, so why should we not follow their lead? Doesn’t make sense

they sack their managers every couple of seasons, i just dont think they are comparable...you compare within your own league

 

[bluestevon]

He'd been a full time manager elsewhere by that point hadn't he?

Yeah been sacked by West Brom i think

 

[beachy]

The smart move would be to give him by the job full time now.

Half of football is the mental side. If the players will run through brick walls and give everything for the manager, then half the battle is won.

It's similar for the manager. If the board show confidence in Unsy he will repay their faith.

 

[toffeemax]

they sack their managers every couple of seasons, i just dont think they are comparable...you compare within your own league

But they’re successful so maybe we should sack managers every couple of years?

 

[neil999]

But they’re successful so maybe we should sack managers every couple of years?

I feel you are being somewhat obtuse, i am just making comparisons within our league

real and barca can afford to do this as their income streams are so massive and they are highly unlikely to not qualify for champs league even in a poor season..

 

[COYBL25]

I feel you are being somewhat obtuse, i am just making comparisons within our league

real and barca can afford to do this as their income streams are so massive and they are highly unlikely to not qualify for champs league even in a poor season..

And they can afford to sack and pay off managers without having to even think about the cost.

* I'm liking this new haughty tone Neil, it suits you x

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

If Unsworth gets the job, then the club consider him to be the best man for the job.

He's built a very good reputation at the club for his work, notably the PL2 title last season, and whilst he shouldn't get the gig out of sentimentality, to assume that's the prime reason he's being considered for the role is disrespecting the work the man has done at EFC.

There's nothing 'small time' about him being considered for the full time role, the mentality of some Blues is becoming cringeworthy imo.

And let's not completely diminish this ponit. A lot of times in sport, there's a certain confidence, a will, that comes with actually winning something. Yes it was only the PL2 title. But there is something to be said for that. You can't put everything into this, but the guys coming up know what it's like to win something, and if the best of them can kick on to the senior team, it breeds a different mentality. And Unsworth was a part of that.

Look, I'm not saying give him the job outright yet. I'm just saying keep an open mind.

 

[toffeemax]

I feel you are being somewhat obtuse, i am just making comparisons within our league

real and barca can afford to do this as their income streams are so massive and they are highly unlikely to not qualify for champs league even in a poor season..

Yeh but we have a billionaire owner so money isn’t as tight as it once was. I’m not trying to be obtuse I’m just putting my opinion accross. Within our league teams like city and Chelsea are chopping and changing their managers often as well so should we do that as they’re successful. Teams like united tried to get the ‘best of the rest’ in Moyes and that didn’t work for them but for spurs it did with Potchettino. Then you’ve got Eddie Howe and Dyche at Bournemouth and Burnley who have achieved major success in a relative manner for the job at hand. Ultimately putting a manager in charge is a gamble, so to say any appointment is small time and use that as a negative Just doesn’t make sense.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Yeh but we have a billionaire owner so money isn’t as tight as it once was. I’m not trying to be obtuse I’m just putting my opinion accross. Within our league teams like city and Chelsea are chopping and changing their managers often as well so should we do that as they’re successful. Teams like united tried to get the ‘best of the rest’ in Moyes and that didn’t work for them but for spurs it did with Potchettino. Then you’ve got Eddie Howe and Dyche at Bournemouth and Burnley who have achieved major success in a relative manner for the job at hand. Ultimately putting a manager in charge is a gamble, so to say any appointment is small time and use that as a negative Just doesn’t make sense.

He's not spending his own money though mate.