Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Bruce Wayne said:
That you've got people on an Everton forum preaching about 'the people having spoken', despite not only most people in Liverpool voting otherwise, but also clearly most of their fellow GOT members, it says mountains for me.
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How very dare some people actually recognise and respect democracy beyond the narrow confines of GOT, the city of Liverpool or Merseyside. It wasn't a referendum where you can decide for your own little clique, it was a national referendum.

Like the result or not, it's incumbent on us all to accept that and move forward as democracy has to be observed.

That you've got people on an Everton forum still spitting their dummies out and showing themselves up to be snivelling cry arses every time a decision goes against them shows more about them than anything else - and it saddens me that we've got such immature Blues amongst our number.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
That you've got people on an Everton forum preaching about 'the people having spoken', despite not only most people in Liverpool voting otherwise, but also clearly most of their fellow GOT members, it says mountains for me.
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Ah come on Bruce, it's democracy, it's at least a two-sided debate. What GOT / Liverpool citizens think is a pretty focused group.

You've really mucked up here.
 
Joey66 said:
So the PM resigned for nothing then your clutching straws the new PM wants to honour the overwhelming vote of the people the courts only stated article 50 should be passed by parliament, and the Remoaners still cannot give up!
To vote that down will be the deathknoll of Parliment particularly the Labour Party!
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He's been clutching at straws since he woke up on 24th June...:) ;)
 
"The young and the university educated voted by large majorities for Mrs Clinton, just as in Britain they voted for EU membership."

The inference is in relation to the UK those of us who voted to leave the EU are old and not university educated!!!!!!!!

I,E. we are all dummies who do not know any better.

That sort of sweeping statement in that article on page 848 really annoys me. It is so condescending and mirrors some posts on here.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
You have moved on Pete. Don't presume to speak for a great many people who haven't. I know it seems like their views are unimportant and all. There's a lot of talk at the moment about the elite being out of touch, but that fails to account for the 16 million of so people who voted to stay in the EU, or the however many million that voted to keep Trump out of the white house. Those people aren't 'an elite', and I'm afraid your views on being better off are absurd. Were Marconi better off whatever happened with the telecoms licenses?
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You're like a record on a turntable that's stuck in a particular groove, Bruce...
 
The Esk said:
The very same point could be made to those who want Brexit at any cost just because a referendum voted for it.

If it makes no economic sense to leave the single market or the currency union at a time when the world is just about to enter a protectionary phase then the government and Parliament should have the leadership to take that decision.

We live in a parliamentary democracy. There would be nothing undemocratic about Parliament deciding not to proceed if the economic case demonstrated thus.
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You could argue that point in reverse.Those who voted to remain did it at any cost just to protect their status quo but the referendum went against them.

You are back on your trail of staying in by hoping Parliament may decide not to proceed depending on the economic case, ignoring the majority vote to leave.
 
peteblue said:
If you cannot see that trying to undermine a public vote with a clear winner is undemocratic, petulant and self serving[...]
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The above is the truth that the Esk, Bruce, and other Remainers cannot accept. They go on, and on, and on, and on...

I'm surprised they haven't permanently moved to Brussels by now...
 
Joey66 said:
So the PM resigned for nothing then your clutching straws the new PM wants to honour the overwhelming vote of the people the courts only stated article 50 should be passed by parliament, and the Remoaners still cannot give up!
To vote that down will be the deathknoll of Parliment particularly the Labour Party!
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Old Blue 2 said:
He's been clutching at straws since he woke up on 24th June...:) ;)
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On the contrary, I was asked to lay out our constitutional position and I did so.

I was asked to point to where a Government minister had stated referenda were advisory, I did so.

I stated that the whole situation is a mess. It's a mess not only because of the outcome of the referendum, but for the poor drafting of the initial legislation, the poor planning of what would happen after the referendum, and the Government's handling of the subsequent constitutional and economic crisis.

The impact of the events of the last few years, the rise of the right and the normalisation of extreme views such as Farage will have the widest reaching consequences, not only in the UK, Europe but other democracies around the world as witnessed by this horrific photograph.

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peteblue said:
If you listen to the arrogant nonsense coming from the Eu about Brexit and now Trump you can quickly come to the conclusion that these people are from another planet. They understand nothing, hear nothing, see nothing, they merely repeat their doctrines, abuse this thing called popularism ( I always thought politicians wanted to do things for the majority) and attempt to denigrate those who stand up to them. I really want Farage to stick it to them..........
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What you also mean is that very same lot at the top want to maintain the status quo and thus protect their self interest, they cloud this in a fog so the ordinary people cannot see what they are upto.
 
To the Esk and the rest of the Remainers:
YOU CAME SECOND IN A TWO-HORSE RACE. YOU LOST. GET OVER IT...

If you love the EU so much, go and live over there when we finally pull out. You will not be missed...
 
Old Blue 2 said:
To the Esk and the rest of the Remainers:
YOU CAME SECOND IN A TWO-HORSE RACE. YOU LOST. GET OVER IT...

If you love the EU so much, go and live over there when we finally pull out. You will not be missed...
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OB2 - with this post you have articulated and demonstrated the basis of my concerns far more eloquently than I could have done, thank you.
 
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