Current Affairs EU In or Out
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Technical term is 'advisory referendum', as opposed to a 'binary' one.
That said, it still does give a mandate of sort, if not an actual one.
Old Blue 2
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No to both...
Is it that complicated...?
Mandate is there from the country. OUT. Terms to be negotiated with regard to future dealings with EU. 'We are leaving your organisation of which we are presently a part' is quite clear. We don't go begging the EU for their agreement to leave...
peteblue
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If the terms aren't acceptable, we negotiate until they are. If the EU wishes to undermine it's exports to the UK then that is for them to accept. We are leaving, with or without a deal. Trade will then continue irrespective, in our favour, until a deal is done. Meanwhile we will have left and will pursue deals with a myriad of other countries, many of whom will have already been lined up. This is not a revote of remain or leave, we have done that. This is about terms, either way whatever the deal, we are leaving........
peteblue
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Keep telling yourself that. But we are leaving........
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OK, Mr. Esk, give me chapter and verse of the law presently in force which specifically dictates that what you have stated above is correct. If you can, I will then go on to give some notice to what you post further on the above point.
And given what was written on the ballot paper, pray tell me: WHAT DOES CONSTITUTE A MANDATE???
I do get tired of reading utter rubbish in this thread...
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Well it wasn't really a goal, it's just that the whole of the ball crossed the goaline, between the posts and under the bar. But it wasn't really a goal. Not an ACTUAL goal... Let's not count it, eh...? EH? Oh come on, we shouldn't really count it. It's not fair...
Do me a favour...!!!
The point is you negotiate on your own terms not terms that have tipped of your partner you are leaving god help you if you ever divorce you would lose your shirt?lol
So Scotland should be independent then?
Or we should have never joined the common market ever?
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As I am sure you are aware we do not have a codified constitution to which I can point directly to give you an answer.
However I can point you to the view of the High Court and examples of referendum legislation that are legally binding (the alternative vote referendum for example which explicitly stated so).
On November 3rd the High Court said
“a referendum on any topic can only be advisory for the lawmakers in Parliament”.
Finally I will refer you to the briefing paper for the European Referendum Bill 2015-16 which clearly states the referendum is pre-legislative or consultative.
peteblue
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One thing is for certain, if we ever have another referendum we will ensure that the wording is absolutely correct. The thing is though is that if referendum's are only advisory, why bother voting ?.......
So the PM resigned for nothing then your clutching straws the new PM wants to honour the overwhelming vote of the people the courts only stated article 50 should be passed by parliament, and the Remoaners still cannot give up!As I am sure you are aware we do not have a codified constitution to which I can point directly to give you an answer.
However I can point you to the view of the High Court and examples of referendum legislation that are legally binding (the alternative vote referendum for example which explicitly stated so).
On November 3rd the High Court said
“a referendum on any topic can only be advisory for the lawmakers in Parliament”.
Finally I will refer you to the briefing paper for the European Referendum Bill 2015-16 which clearly states the referendum is pre-legislative or consultative.
To vote that down will be the deathknoll of Parliment particularly the Labour Party!
peteblue
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This referendum is to determine how the people of the United Kingdom wish their country to be governed. The result however can be ignored by parliament if it doesn't fit in with their views and can be regarded as purely advisory depending on which way the electorate votes. If in the case of the electorate completely ignoring the ruling class and deciding to want something that does not serve the ruling elite, then the elite reserve the right to take it to Court to have their view overridden to ensure that democracy wins..........
That was not on the ballot paper, also Parliment voted 6-1 in the wording and the format of the ballot paper that's why I think the Supreme Court will boot out the high courts appeal!As I am sure you are aware we do not have a codified constitution to which I can point directly to give you an answer.
However I can point you to the view of the High Court and examples of referendum legislation that are legally binding (the alternative vote referendum for example which explicitly stated so).
On November 3rd the High Court said
“a referendum on any topic can only be advisory for the lawmakers in Parliament”.
Finally I will refer you to the briefing paper for the European Referendum Bill 2015-16 which clearly states the referendum is pre-legislative or consultative.
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