Current Affairs EU In or Out
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roydo
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Oh.
All a bit tricky then.
Like the result of the referendum, whilst not being overwhelming, was clear.
But I would guess that the HOC split would probably be in favour of staying, rightly or wrongly. (SNP, LD, plus significant rumps of Lab and Cons all Stay).
And thats before you lob in the party politics that will be played into the mix.
*boils head*
1966efc
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Wonder if it would go to a vote that the government would lose. Tantamount to losing confidence. If she played that card (an election with a manifesto promising 'out') behind the scenes, how would Tory MPs react? Do Labour MPs sincerely want to be routed?
Funny how sincerity goes to the wall when salaries are at stake.
Funny how sincerity goes to the wall when salaries are at stake.
The Esk
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From the Guardian
Theresa May has said she accepts the government will have to pass an act of parliament before it can trigger article 50, the formal process for leaving the European Union.
The government has said it will appeal against Thursday’s unexpected high court ruling, which stated that MPs needed to vote on triggering article 50. Downing Street has insisted it will stick to the timetable of invoking article 50 before the end of March 2017.
Asked whether the prime minister agreed with the Brexit secretary, David Davis, that if the judgment is upheld by the supreme court next month the government will have to put a bill before parliament, she said: “What David Davis was setting out is what would be a logical conclusion to draw from the judg ment from today.”
Davis had said: “The judges have laid out what we can’t do and not exactly what we can do, but we are presuming it requires an act of parliament, therefore both Commons and Lords.”
A formal bill would grant MPs and peers the opportunity to stage a full debate before article 50 is triggered; to table amendments and, some hope, debate the broad principles on which the government will conduct negotiations with the other 27 EU member states.
Theresa May has said she accepts the government will have to pass an act of parliament before it can trigger article 50, the formal process for leaving the European Union.
The government has said it will appeal against Thursday’s unexpected high court ruling, which stated that MPs needed to vote on triggering article 50. Downing Street has insisted it will stick to the timetable of invoking article 50 before the end of March 2017.
Asked whether the prime minister agreed with the Brexit secretary, David Davis, that if the judgment is upheld by the supreme court next month the government will have to put a bill before parliament, she said: “What David Davis was setting out is what would be a logical conclusion to draw from the judg ment from today.”
Davis had said: “The judges have laid out what we can’t do and not exactly what we can do, but we are presuming it requires an act of parliament, therefore both Commons and Lords.”
A formal bill would grant MPs and peers the opportunity to stage a full debate before article 50 is triggered; to table amendments and, some hope, debate the broad principles on which the government will conduct negotiations with the other 27 EU member states.
Don't know enough about todays ruling to know if I think it was correct or not but as a Brexit voter I will be pretty annoyed if any attempt is made to overturn the referendum vote on this. If another election is called I would have to consider voting for whoever was most likely to push Brexit through - even if that was UKIP (and as someone who has only ever voted labour it lib dem - latter pre-Tory coalition - I never thought I'd ever be saying that)
Is this really that big an issue? I mean you'd trade leaving the EU for all the awful things UKIP would undoubtedly do both locally and internationally?
peteblue
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I would have thought that someone calling themselves Lawyers for Britain, might actually want Britain to do Ok....perhaps you should read it ......
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Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water
roydo
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Am I being incredibly thick, but doesnt that contradict each other?
Old Blue 2
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I don't know how what you said sits with the following from the European Union Referendum Act 2015:
This is verbatim from Section 1(1) of the Act
1 The referendum
(1) A referendum is to be held on whether the United Kingdom should remain a member of the European Union.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/36/pdfs/ukpga_20150036_en.pdf
Absolutely nothing about the Referendum being 'advisory' to Parliament within the Act. However there may be other legislation that states Referendums are only 'advisory' that I have not tracked down yet.
1966efc
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Think it's by default.
The voices of reason only raised the advisory bit when they lost.
Good point Bruce. I guess I'd have to think about it and weigh up everything the parties are offering but the principal of upholding the popular vote of the referendum is so important to me that it is a possibility. I also don't see UKIP as the Nazi party and I never found that Farage crossed the line into BNP territory. Finally I don't believe that any of the main parties getting in is likely to make a lot of difference to our lives as we still have the same economic system that in my opinion has it's priorities all wrong. As I've just posted on the democracy thread I'd prefer Cuba or Singapore as models to what we have now.
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