Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Anders_Limpar]

I would have thought that someone calling themselves Lawyers for Britain, might actually want Britain to do Ok....perhaps you should read it ......

I have read it. My point was that they are group of lawyers that campaigned for leave. I've read their stuff before. The first sentence the guy wrote was false. They are not impartial.

... and just because they call themselves Lawyers for Britain, it doesn't mean that everything they say is true. What a weird point.

 

[The Esk]

Am I being incredibly thick, but doesnt that contradict each other?

Totally

 

[roydo]

Totally

Which one? lol

 

[dandydan]

Is this really that big an issue? I mean you'd trade leaving the EU for all the awful things UKIP would undoubtedly do both locally and internationally?

Not ratifying article 50 would give UKIP a huge boost as the anti establishment party. Mostly at labours expense.

 

[Anders_Limpar]

Don't know enough about todays ruling to know if I think it was correct or not but as a Brexit voter I will be pretty annoyed if any attempt is made to overturn the referendum vote on this. If another election is called I would have to consider voting for whoever was most likely to push Brexit through - even if that was UKIP (and as someone who has only ever voted labour it lib dem - latter pre-Tory coalition - I never thought I'd ever be saying that)

Jesus.

It's that important to you?

Two days ago, you didn't know any of the reasons why you voted on an economic level but now you'd have the likes of Nuttal in power just to get out?

 

[Anders_Limpar]

Good point Bruce. I guess I'd have to think about it and weigh up everything the parties are offering but the principal of upholding the popular vote of the referendum is so important to me that it is a possibility. I also don't see UKIP as the Nazi party and I never found that Farage crossed the line into BNP territory. Finally I don't believe that any of the main parties getting in is likely to make a lot of difference to our lives as we still have the same economic system that in my opinion has it's priorities all wrong. As I've just posted on the democracy thread I'd prefer Cuba or Singapore as models to what we have now.

Really?

 

[Anders_Limpar]

Good point Bruce. I guess I'd have to think about it and weigh up everything the parties are offering but the principal of upholding the popular vote of the referendum is so important to me that it is a possibility. I also don't see UKIP as the Nazi party and I never found that Farage crossed the line into BNP territory. Finally I don't believe that any of the main parties getting in is likely to make a lot of difference to our lives as we still have the same economic system that in my opinion has it's priorities all wrong. As I've just posted on the democracy thread I'd prefer Cuba or Singapore as models to what we have now.

It's important this. As I agree that UKIP could fill a gap, particularly if Fararge is recast in everyone's mind as a someone that's 'straight taking' and 'says it like it is'...

No, he's a racist scum bag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol....-No-blacks.-No-Irish-is-now-Ukip-policy.html

 

[Groucho]

Just as a light aside, I'd laugh if this went all the way to the European courts lol

 

[ToffeeTim]

Parliament should decide ultimately. But parliament are there to implement the will of the people. So really brexit has to be implemented. And the judiciary need to de - politicise their agenda.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I don't know how what you said sits with the following from the European Union Referendum Act 2015:
This is verbatim from Section 1(1) of the Act

1 The referendum
(1) A referendum is to be held on whether the United Kingdom should remain a member of the European Union.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/36/pdfs/ukpga_20150036_en.pdf

Absolutely nothing about the Referendum being 'advisory' to Parliament within the Act. However there may be other legislation that states Referendums are only 'advisory' that I have not tracked down yet.

You've not looked hard enough, the referendum was advisory and not binary, it's a fact, not conjecture

 

[JonS]

It's important this. As I agree that UKIP could fill a gap, particularly if Fararge is recast in everyone's mind as a someone that's 'straight taking' and 'says it like it is'...

No, he's a racist scum bag.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol....-No-blacks.-No-Irish-is-now-Ukip-policy.html

Fair enough. I hadn't seen those quotes from him. No I couldn't support that or those views. Hopefully if Labour stick to what Corbyn said today about wanting to uphold the Brexit vote - just wants a chance to debate in Parliament - I could vote for them. Do consider it vital to uphold the vote though. Having a referendum was for me vital. Though I dont expect much to change economically either way, politically, the principal of being able to make our own decisions is something we needed a vote on as voters had never signed up to an ever enlarging superstate

 

[peteblue]

I have read it. My point was that they are group of lawyers that campaigned for leave. I've read their stuff before. The first sentence the guy wrote was false. They are not impartial.

... and just because they call themselves Lawyers for Britain, it doesn't mean that everything they say is true. What a weird point.

But they raise a very good point. When it's 'more europe' the courts accepted the prerogative, when it's 'less europe' they didn't ........this will be a fundamental issue for the Supreme Court.......

 

[peteblue]

Just as a light aside, I'd laugh if this went all the way to the European courts lol

We've done that mate, are you not keeping up.......

 

[carlos21]

We've done that mate, are you not keeping up.......

Hiya Pete,

 

[Groucho]

We've done that mate, are you not keeping up.......

Rather, I'm finding the whole saga tedious.