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[Joey66]

No answer to the original point before you changed the subject?

answer what ? do you think I am your pupil at school/ the mod started to be civil please keep it that way all i seen was a load of post numbers on a small ipad here so please do not take offence!

 

[joey_macmo]

answer what ? do you think I am your pupil at school/ the mos started to be civil please keep it that way all i seen was a load of post numbers on a small ipad here so please do not take offence!

Forget it, forever changing the subject.

 

[Toffeelover]

Did they? Genuine question.

Even so, they voted knowing there was a possibility (No matter how small they probly perceived it to be at that time) that A/ The tories'd get back in, thereby allowing the referendum; and B/ That referendum result would turn out to be an out vote.

This'd all have been academic if the useless bleeders in parliament had pulled their fingers out to ensure it'd have been more than a straight in/out vote.

Still they've gotta at least appear to justify their salaries - even if by their own previous lack of foresight/ gross incompetence.

I t has really always been fairly clear from Sturgeon, Salmond and the other SNP that they would not let it go. Just a matter of time to have another vote when it looked better to get the result they desired.

 

[dandydan]

Yes and they voted for an advisory referendum.

It appears once again that a lot of people were unaware of that fact.

Given it wasn't made clear on any ballot or campaign material I'm not surprised. Nice of them to leave some wiggle room but the genie is out of the bottle for the electorate.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

I agree the front page of the Mail yesterday was a disgrace.

Didn't see it, tbf. But I can guess what it's about with those cabs looking like they're all left-hand drive.

Trouble is, as someone familiar with the logistics industry, what I think they're getting at isn't without substance, I'm afraid.

 

[roydo]

Didn't see it, tbf. But I can guess what it's about with those cabs looking like they're all left-hand drive.

Trouble is, as someone familiar with the logistics industry, what I think they're getting at isn't without substance, I'm afraid.

I know exactly what you mean there mate. Exactly.

 

[Anders_Limpar]

As I'm sure all of you are aware parliment had a vote on holding the referendum in the first place. So now they get to vote on wether to accept the result of a vote on something that they voted to happen.

Although after months of crowing it's rather wonderful to see the aged and right wing work themselves up into a lather, the referendum was advisory so it's only right that parliament votes to implement article 50.

This will also mean there will be accountability and a bill, which means parliament shapes how we leave. This has got to be better than a single unelected prime minster, shaping what is undeniably so key to the country.

 

[Toffeelover]

That's true...and it'd be manna from heaven for a PLP that see a GE defeat as the silver bullet to cut short Corbyn's time as leader.

Not sure if it'd suit the SNP and other parties though, or whether their combined total makes it impossible - % of MPs required-wise - to trigger a GE.

If this happened Dave, I think the PLP would split. Guess who is standing ready to step in resume hie political career?

 

[dandydan]

Allthough after months of crowing it's rather wonderful to see the aged and right wing work themselves up into a lather, the referendum was advisory so it's only right that parliament votes to implement article 50.

This will also mean there will be accountability and a bill, which means parliament shapes how we leave. This has got to be better than a single unelected prime minster, shaping what is undeniably so key to the country.

I must have gotten a dodgy ballot form as it said nothing about voting for parliment to decide on an advisory referendum. In or out was pretty much my only choice.

 

[joey_macmo]

Given it wasn't made clear on any ballot or campaign material I'm not surprised. Nice of them to leave some wiggle room but the genie is out of the bottle for the electorate.

It was clear to anyone who had researched the vote. Considering we've been told over and over in this thread that it's wrong to suggest some leave voters didn't know what they were voting for where does that leave your point?

 

[dandydan]

It was clear to anyone who had researched the vote. Considering we've been told over and over in this thread that it's wrong to suggest some leave voters didn't know what they were voting for where does that leave your point?

So all that stuff the remain said would happen was in fact a lie as it wasn't a vote on leaving in the first place.

 

[joey_macmo]

So all that stuff the remain said would happen was in fact a lie as it wasn't a vote on leaving in the first place.

You seemed to have spectacularly missed the point

 

[Duncan Disordely]

Advisory, and the MPs new it

 

[Tubey]

Advisory, and the MPs new it

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This isn't news though. It just goes to show how unprepared the general public are at looking at issues and making a decision on them, when they don't even know the mechanics of how it works.

I knew this referendum was non-binary, and I'm just an everyday person too - so why is almost everyone absolutely shocked at this news today? I don't get it - they should be shocked if it went the other way! To bypass parliament with a law - pretty much any law - is absolutely unheard of, yet people think this should have happened.

Theresa May does not have an Enabling Act on this.

 

[dandydan]

It was clear to anyone who had researched the vote. Considering we've been told over and over in this thread that it's wrong to suggest some leave voters didn't know what they were voting for where does that leave your point?

Not a single mention of an advisory referendum in this thread before June 26.