Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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If we leave the Customs Union, we can strike our own deals with other countries which we cannot do if we are a member. However trading with the EU may involve proof of origin and there will be administrative costs. The reverse is true from the EU to the UK, there will have to be proof of origin and they too would have administrative costs but on a bigger number. Therefore there is an incentive for both sides to find a modus operandi that works for us both without either side increasing costs or adding delays.....

One would think that if the amount of effort which is required to Brexit was applied to our export performance in the single market we wouldn't have to go through this process.

But then for all the pretence it's not really about improving Britain's economic performance as we established last night.

As I mentioned above we will need to increase trade by 37% with our 10 largest export markets just to stand still.

Economic madness.
 
I'm not that fussed what it looks like, and I don't spend the entirety of my time musing about it on a football forum.

But those reasons are crap (don't like immigrants etc.). I'm sure with the wealth of knowledge at our fingertips, if most of us had half an hour we could draw up an outline of the history of economics downturns on the UK.

I think his point was that none of the 'experts' saw them coming........
 
One would think that if the amount of effort which is required to Brexit was applied to our export performance in the single market we wouldn't have to go through this process.

But then for all the pretence it's not really about improving Britain's economic performance as we established last night.

As I mentioned above we will need to increase trade by 37% with our 10 largest export markets just to stand still.

Economic madness.

The economic case may or may not be proven. Personally I wanted out from the control of the EU commission and all the nonsense that goes with it. I want the ultimate political figure directly controlling my country to be someone that resulted either from my vote or from the vote of others within the UK, and whom can be removed by the ballot box. If there is an economic price to pay then so be it. There is more at stake than simple economics......
 
It is intersting how we now apparently live in the age of 'post-intelligence' because some have seized on the fact that it is difficult to predict the economy.
 
The economic case may or may not be proven. Personally I wanted out from the control of the EU commission and all the nonsense that goes with it. I want the ultimate political figure directly controlling my country to be someone that resulted either from my vote or from the vote of others within the UK, and whom can be removed by the ballot box. If there is an economic price to pay then so be it. There is more at stake than simple economics......

I'm sure this will comfort any person who loses their job/home if it all goes tits up.
 
Then we must all, as a country, make sure it doesn't go tits up......so get behind it, stop complaining, and put that B in economics to good use......

I'm sat here being as productive as I can - truth be told it's been a quiet week. I work for a major training provider though, and I can't single handedly replace the money that the EU throw at educating employed people if it isn't protected!
 
I'm sat here being as productive as I can - truth be told it's been a quiet week. I work for a major training provider though, and I can't single handedly replace the money that the EU throw at educating employed people if it isn't protected!

What type of training ? In my spare time, now that I am retired, I run various management courses for large multinationals......
 
But that isn't what people voted for. Something like 80% or more of EU migrants work, so using the latest EU immigration figures, that still represents 140,000 or so people. Rudd has spoken about numbers of 10,000 or down about that figure, and not just from the EU but from everywhere, whilst shaming companies that employ foreign workers.

I guarantee that the costs involved in policing this (taking back control innit) will far outweigh any 'costs' involved in people coming here and not working. I've said to Joey many pages ago, the problem isn't migration, the problem is that our system of distributing funds to local authorities is disjointed. An influx of people to a town would be difficult to manage under the current system regardless of if those people came from Manchester or Madras.

All this has done is fueled a 'blame the foreigner' culture that whilst may not be present in the more sensible people on here, is nonetheless present in the wider society. The sad thing is, those folks don't realise that they're being played by politicians out to further their own careers. It's classic in-group/out-group politics, the kind of which has been played out for centuries, just with different people on the outside. It's ugly, it's mendacious and it should have no place in a decent kind of society.
Bruce migration will no stop overnight all that will be in place is the migration will be based on skills needed with a work permit { which many other countries use outside the EU} we have a skill shortage so for you to state you hope the country goes bust is a bit off the wall if we have a successful Brexit, I was astounded when you posted that?
 
Tony "It wasn't me, guv" Blair on Radio 4 today.

Urges naughty Brexit voters to be given a chance to mend their ways in a second referendum.

What's wrong with that? Are we meant to just sit idly by if the Brexit vote results in economic disaster that was not foreseen at the time of the vote?

Parliament has to act in the best interests of the country - it makes total sense that they reserve the right to shoot down something that would be an act of self-harm to the country.
 
I'm not sure if patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, but nationalism sure is the first refuge of the dolt. I very much regard myself as a citizen of the world. You know, one of those people who Teresa May held in such poor esteem in her conference speech. There are many people living on this rock that I hold in the highest of regard, but those who believe some special privilege is due because a person happened to be born on this rock are those who I couldn't really hold in lower regard. They, and more importantly their thinking, need to fail as it's poisonous.


I think I need to pass you a bigger shovel, Bruce. The vituperation in the above is staggering!

I have to say that you have shown your true colours in the previous post I replied to, and in the above. And to put it politely: Not nice. In fact, a total disgrace to label people you do not know the way you have done...
 
Laughable Joey, there was no 'ransom' in place.

Greece wanted the drachma removed earlier and to be in the euro zone, therefore borrowing a HUGE bunch of money. Hardly the EU pushing for the Euro, the EU was perfectly happy with the plan originally imposed (same as it is in Bulgaria right now) for their 'native' currency to stabilise and get more expensive before they get to the Euro.

They literally removed currency in the thousands to get the euro earlier, therefore doing themselves in, and it came back to bite them, to absolutely no surprise to anyone, ever.
Really forced by the EU to sell there ports
https://www.rt.com/business/338949-greece-china-port-sale/
do you really want to be dictated too by a EU union who either rip you off if you are doing well or screw you if you fail?
 
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