joey_macmo
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It's actually a self-fulfilling prophecy because people are talking themselves down.
It catergorically does not prove that the remoaners were correct in their economic predictions.
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It's actually a self-fulfilling prophecy because people are talking themselves down.
It catergorically does not prove that the remoaners were correct in their economic predictions.
Who comes up with these names? It's like The Apprentice ffs.
Joe, see the threadmark at the bottom of the thread - I did it to provide a timely reminder how much the EU actually costs (clue: it isn't anywhere near £8-10bn a year)
He's my hero. Don't be mean. As an aside, it's interesting to note the rebranding of the Adam Smith Institute that @peteblue referred to a few days ago. They're also a pro-globalisation/anti-Brexit think tank btw, but they're ditching the libertarian tag in favour of neoliberal.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
So if I offered you £5 from a wallet with £50 in or £10 from a wallet with £1000 in you would take the £5 because it's a bigger %......it's simple maths the EU would lose more £'s or €'s than we would. And on a straight country by country comparison, Germany would lose more (both in £'s and €'s and also % wise) than the UK would in losing trade with Germany......simple maths.......
If I lost £5 from my £50 wallet, I'd be more worried than if I lost £10 from my £1,000 wallet. Surely that's the point here? We're talking about what we have to lose from leaving the single market, not what we gain from doing so. We're not going to get a better trade deal with the EU than we already have.
neil999
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yeah i saw that, bit odd i thought..as neo-liberal sounds a bit scary!
i do wonder what the heck the lib dems are gonna do now...
Aye, and the moniker is used as an insult as much as anything else. It would be nice if there was a flag under which pro-globalisation, pro-openness folks could amass however. Of course, traditionally that would have been the Liberals, but since merging with the LibDems I've always felt the social democrat side has turned them into Labour lite more than a party of social and economic freedoms.
peteblue
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We may not get a better trade deal with the EU, that is possible, but we can now do other trade deals that were not on the table and were at the whims and mercy of another 27 votes......swings and roundabouts...we may well lose a bit from the EU but gain far more elsewhere. In addition the few countries such as Germany and France that do have large trade deals with the UK will not allow them to be hit because their pain will be just as great....
Which countries can't we trade with now, and which produces can't we trade?
peteblue
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I didn't mention countries or produce. The trade deals would be free trade type deals that would be far easier and quicker to do on our own rather than having the requirements of 27 other countries to cater for..........
Which products, and to which countries are being hindered by not having a 'free trade deal'?
peteblue
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Look it up......
tsubaki
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Sadly, I think the wonks formerly known as ASI will have flip all to do with free trade and will emphatically not be pro-openness. Neo-liberal is a dirty word because of what neo-liberals have (and are) getting up to, after all.
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