Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Gladystweet]

Oh, by the way, got my bamboo down to about 18 inches/2 feet yesterday. Ready to be nuked!

Bamboo is a grass and amongst the fastest growing plants on earth.
It grows so fast you can actually hear it grow.


As you were gentlemen...

 

[roydo]

Bamboo is a grass and amongst the fastest growing plants in earth.
It grows so fast you can actually hear it grow.


As you were gentlemen...

Its a bloody pain in the backside. Well, was.

Blame the EU.

 

[Joey66]

Oh, by the way, got my bamboo down to about 18 inches/2 feet yesterday. Ready to be nuked!

Not now wait till early spring for new growth and spray leaves and stems on the new shoots for it to transport to the root system of the bamboo if shoots appear in the winter do not worry it has to be in full osmotic pulling on the roots for the glysophate to transpire into the pumping action of the baboo, it will go semi dormant also do it in a dry period after the plant has had adequate water in the past in spring

 

[Bruce Wayne]

European Union Finances 2015: statement on the 2015 EU Budget and measures to counter fraud and financial mismanagement

Joey that figure includes a thing called TOR. TOR - Traditional Own Resources payments - which is another word for custom duties/tariffs imposed on goods imported into the EU- TOR payments at 75 per cent to the EU. The remaining 25 per cent is retained by the UK to cover the costs of administering collection on behalf of the EU. This amounts £2.4 billion to the EU and the UK keeps £800 million. As this is paid by those exporting into the UK it is not an expense on the UK.

In 2015 the figure was £17.7 billion which includes £3.2 (TOR payment) = £14.5 billion includes VAT payment of £2.5 billion.

The UK gets a rebate - "the estimated value of the UK’s rebate in 2015 is €5.6 billion (£4.4 billion)" £14.5 billion - £4.4 billion = £10.1 billion including VAT.

The UK also receives this money,

"UK public sector receipts in 2015, mainly from the European Agricultural Guarantee (EAGF), European Agricultural Fund for Rural Development (EAFRD) and the Social and Regional Development Funds, are expected to be around £4.4 billion. The majority of these receipts will either be paid to, or used in support of, the private sector but are channelled through government departments or agencies".

£10.1 billion minus this £4.4 billion= £5.7 billion.

The UK also receives, "The EU makes some payments directly to the private sector, for example to carry out research activities. These payments do not appear in the public sector’s accounts. It is estimated that in 2013, these receipts were worth £1.4 billion. These payments are not included in Tables 3.A or 3.C-F, which provide data on public sector receipts only.

So that is £5.7 billion minus £1.4 billion = £4.3 billion includes VAT.

The cost of the UK being in the EU is £4.3 billion which includes £2.5 billion VAT.

That's all in the post I threadmarked. You can lead a horse to water....

 

[Gladystweet]

Not now wait till early spring for new growth and spray leaves and stems on the new shoots for it to transport to the root system of the bamboo if shoots appear in the winter do not worry it has to be in full osmotic pulling on the roots for the glysophate to transpire into the pumping action of the baboo, it will go semi dormant also do it in a dry period after the plant has had adequate water in the past in spring

 

[Zezti]

I haven't been in this thread since doomsday, uh I mean, the referendum, but I just wanted to post this link:
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/wat...ry.html#ooid=tvcXZqNjE6upxZOYIJNJpFLuQtCuoyai

Its a video of a radio station and a guy from my city (Plymouth) calls in to give his reason for voting out:

(paraphrasing)
"I'm an electrician and I voted out because of the EU laws"
"Which laws?
"uh, bananas?"
"No, which laws? Name me one law"
"I can't, but its not about that"

He goes on to change his reasoning to blame the EU politicians for being political, then finally, the inevitable "immigrants". Says there are 'mobs of them' in our city center (there isn't any, but there are a fair few foreign students at the university but most of those are from Asia) who aren't integrating so apparently leaving the EU will do something about mobs of people who are already here.

Leave voters.

 

[roydo]

Not now wait till early spring for new growth and spray leaves and stems on the new shoots for it to transport to the root system of the bamboo if shoots appear in the winter do not worry it has to be in full osmotic pulling on the roots for the glysophate to transpire into the pumping action of the baboo, it will go semi dormant also do it in a dry period after the plant has had adequate water in the past in spring

Cheers mate.

 

[peteblue]

But we have circa £70 Billion of GDP with the EU.

Which whatever way you cut and paste it, has been put at risk.

Reckon we will be ok personally, but some folk just focus on the costs of membership, whilst totally ignoring the benefits.

There is more to life than money. But we will do even better outside......

 

[peteblue]

"Friday's result also threatens to redefine Britain's growing financial services relationship with China, which has agreed to a number of joint projects as part of the China-UK Economic and Financial Dialogue (EFD) program to deepen economic ties between the two counties, based largely on the UK's membership of the EU.

Last year, the British government and China's Vice Premier Ma Kai announced plans to launch a London-Shanghai equity trading link, a mutual recognition scheme for distributing funds products, cooperation on cross-listing exchange products, measures to "cement" London as a yuan clearing hub, and a commitment on the part of several Chinese financial firms to set up bases in London - in addition to strategic Chinese infrastructure investments.

The UK Treasury said last year's agreement ushered in a "golden era" for relations between the two countries. But these projects are now in doubt amid uncertainty over the UK's future access to the EU single financial market, said sources and consultants.

"Inward investment by China into the UK under the dialogue has been focused on infrastructure projects and I wouldn't expect that should change with Brexit, but on financial services projects with China, that's at significant risk now," said Andrew Naylor, a Singapore-based executive director at Cicero Group, a consultancy that has been helping Asian financial firms weigh the Brexit risks". Reuters.

The UK already sells financial services to China. Which could be at risk when/if the UK leaves the EU.

Which products are the UK not able to sell at the moment and to which countries due to 'restrictive barriers' that doesn't allow competition?

As I said it is a misnomer, to suggest that 'free trade' agreements will 'liberate' UK trade i.e 'break down restrictive barriers to entry allowing competition' and the UK will sell more and quicker. The EU isn't restricting the UK from trading with some countries due to not having 'free trade' agreements.

So basically you are arguing that we can trade with anyone anyway. So therefore we can trade with the EU anyway. So what was your point again......

 

[peteblue]

Bamboo is a grass and amongst the fastest growing plants on earth.
It grows so fast you can actually hear it grow.


As you were gentlemen...

Is that true......

 

[peteblue]

I haven't been in this thread since doomsday, uh I mean, the referendum, but I just wanted to post this link:
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/wat...ry.html#ooid=tvcXZqNjE6upxZOYIJNJpFLuQtCuoyai

Its a video of a radio station and a guy from my city (Plymouth) calls in to give his reason for voting out:

(paraphrasing)
"I'm an electrician and I voted out because of the EU laws"
"Which laws?
"uh, bananas?"
"No, which laws? Name me one law"
"I can't, but its not about that"

He goes on to change his reasoning to blame the EU politicians for being political, then finally, the inevitable "immigrants". Says there are 'mobs of them' in our city center (there isn't any, but there are a fair few foreign students at the university but most of those are from Asia) who aren't integrating so apparently leaving the EU will do something about mobs of people who are already here.

Leave voters.

So you, plus Joey Macmo and Bruce Wayne (who liked the post) think that all 17,400,000 people are similar, or are you just saying that one idiot voted in a particular way............great post, it's convinced me..........

 

[peteblue]

Its a bloody pain in the backside. Well, was.

Blame the EU.

Bleach will get rid, thin bleach, use from a sprayer........

 

[Jib in lad]

FFS

 

[peteblue]

FFS

Can't see it mate, what is it......

 

[roydo]

Is that true......

Havnt been that bored to listen mate.

Grows quickly mind, and with no pandas here, it has been cropped.