peteblue
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We've swapped them for the Poles......keep up mate.....
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We've swapped them for the Poles......keep up mate.....
No they won't and no we're not
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
The purpose of a trade deal is so that both sides benefit, otherwise you don't do it. So either we will do deals or we won't .
Within the Eu we were a lone voice and being shafted on a regular basis.
UKIP's are thugs, what do you expect. Mind you I've seen a few tasty 'exchanges' at other political gatherings so glass houses and all that........
I agree that Labour have become a joke.....
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Brevity won the day......
wikofootball
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http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-in-uk-3012274-Oct2016/?utm_source=shortlink
how anyone can defend the tories and their policies is beyond me..we are stronger in the EU.. THAN BEING OUTSIDE
how anyone can defend the tories and their policies is beyond me..we are stronger in the EU.. THAN BEING OUTSIDE
The EU won't exist in 20 years time so better out now before it gets much worse.
It's just that it's more or less only you two, agreeing for things based on the good ol' days, rather than actual arguments (from you at least, Pete actually presents arguments). If I post in the same style as you I'd get warned for being a WUM, so I'll just do my best to never ever reply to you in here.
Nice to hear that!
The Esk
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Can you imagine a scenario as such....
A hugely successful company with long term contracts tied to their nearest and most accessible clients, decide to unilaterally cancel those contracts with no idea of the future commercial relationships with those clients just because the shareholders happen not to like/share the same values as their clients?
Can you imagine being a board member of said company who says, because the shareholders are objecting we'd better cancel existing relationships and try and renegotiate, even though we don't know how or whether we'll be able to do business with those clients in the future?
That's exactly the position "UK plc" finds itself today.
Who on earth can say that in this position we are in a better position than our previous contractual relationship?
This is why Sterling is falling through the floor - in the example given, Sterling is a proxy for the share price of UK plc. It's a reflection of future prospects.
The shareholders (voters) may have spoken but the duty of the board (Government) is to act in the best fiduciary interests of those shareholders.
This Government (board) shows no desire or ability to do so. What a crazy world we live in...
A hugely successful company with long term contracts tied to their nearest and most accessible clients, decide to unilaterally cancel those contracts with no idea of the future commercial relationships with those clients just because the shareholders happen not to like/share the same values as their clients?
Can you imagine being a board member of said company who says, because the shareholders are objecting we'd better cancel existing relationships and try and renegotiate, even though we don't know how or whether we'll be able to do business with those clients in the future?
That's exactly the position "UK plc" finds itself today.
Who on earth can say that in this position we are in a better position than our previous contractual relationship?
This is why Sterling is falling through the floor - in the example given, Sterling is a proxy for the share price of UK plc. It's a reflection of future prospects.
The shareholders (voters) may have spoken but the duty of the board (Government) is to act in the best fiduciary interests of those shareholders.
This Government (board) shows no desire or ability to do so. What a crazy world we live in...
Old Blue 2
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In a word, Esk, rubbish!
What you attempt to compare bears no comparison, for starters. Go back to the early-to-mid '70s and see what the ground was like then. Then look at the bureaucratic monster the EU is today. Are you sure you're not Juncker...? Come back at me in 5 years and tell me what the EU looks like then.
Sterling has been,and always will be, in the control of the money men. Remember them? The ones who made a complete arse of things in the middle of the last decade. Fact is, the £ against the $ or any other currency will always fluctuate. I did NOT see you saying anything when it was healthy a month or so ago. You did NOT post when other countries were saying they were looking forward to trading with us in the future. Selective posting, 100%. Shame on you!
You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you don't fool this guy for one second.
I will not repeat what has been said on numerous occasions already in this thread...
bobbydigital
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No, it's quite clearly not rubbish.
GBP fluctuates based on supply and demand in the foreign exchange market. The pound has devalued massively since June 24 and this is because Brexit will reduce foreign investment coming into the UK which will therefore reduce the demand for GBP which is what @The Esk alludes to. As demand drops, the price that market equilibrium is reached at drops.
Also, what do you think other countries are going to say? "No, we don't want to trade." Other countries smell blood in the water and if you think Boris and the rest of the bumbling fools will go around clicking their fingers, getting countries to lie down and give us great trade deals with no concessions because you saw them on the news saying "yes, we will trade with the UK," you're in absolute dreamland.
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Foot Long Hot Dog
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What absolute nonsensical, clueless drivel that is.
You epitomise the absolute cluelessness that exists around the economic fallout from the proposed 'hard Brexit'
Rule Britania
Foot Long Hot Dog
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Did your auld fella give you that pearl of wisdom?
manxtoffee
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You are looking at it from the wrong angle Esk.. trading financials is one thing, manufacturing etc trading is entirely another. My job is obtain the best price for materials(metals/plastics) various parts required for the high end manufacturing trade and I can tell you the E.U. Is far far from the best place to do business.
I think it's inevitable. Hundreds of years of European history suggests integration will end badly.
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