Current Affairs EU In or Out

[spectateur]

What did you have planned to do today that you now can't because of Brexit mate.?

Well he can't take his dog or cat out of GB. Pet passports cancelled.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

However, the Eu also has exceptions to allow this practice, one exception being to Holland....but you knew that didn’t you....

Every EU nation could have banned the practice within their territorial waters from early 2019. There’s a complete EU ban coming into force in June, but don’t let facts get in the way.

 

[peteblue]

Is this really what we are going to have to put up with...everything would have happened in June or 2022. And of course you are right, everything would have happened eventually, just not quickly and there is the difference. The first Covid vaccine was approved eventually and the Oxford one will no doubt be approved eventually. It describes the bloc quite well doesn’t it...EventUally.......

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Is this really what we are going to have to put up with...everything would have happened in June or 2022. And of course you are right, everything would have happened eventually, just not quickly and there is the difference. The first Covid vaccine was approved eventually and the Oxford one will no doubt be approved eventually. It describes the bloc quite well doesn’t it...EventUally.......

What part of we could have banned it nearly 2 years ago are you struggling with?

The Heil or the Brexit Bugle obvs didn’t share this detail so you’ve soiled yourself on here celebrating a massive ‘win’ as you’ve been conned with BS - again. So now you’re crying about facts being quoted back to you. Embarrassing that you’re so gullible and never seem to check the veracity of the stuff you regurgitate on here tbh.

 

[peteblue]

What part of we could have banned it nearly 2 years ago are you struggling with?

The Heil or the Brexit Bugle obvs didn’t share this detail so you’ve soiled yourself on here celebrating a massive ‘win’ as you’ve been conned with BS - again. So now you’re crying about facts being quoted back to you. Embarrassing that you’re so gullible and never seem to check the veracity of the stuff you regurgitate on here tbh.

No need to get upset. What is it with Remainers and Anger...chill out...have a beer......

 

[Barnfred 55]

Not really, for several reasons.

First, we have no parallel timeline where we stayed in the EU to compare ourselves with. When people say "leaving the EU is a disaster", they don't mean people will be destitute on the streets and the return of workhouses etc. etc. they mean it will result in a decline of living standards gradually and perpetually compared to what we could have done. So everything that goes wrong in the next decade will be excused by being the fault of something else, be it COVID or whatever convenient excuse comes over the horizon.

Second, euro-scepticism isn't going to go away, regardless of how much of an obvious disaster leaving is. So rejoining would require another referendum years after the fact, more division and, if we did rejoin, more of the UK being bells from the sidelines forevermore. That's if there is a UK of course, because I think it's absolutely nailed on that Scotland goes independent and Ireland joins together in the not to distant future; no more than 20 years away from both IMO.

Third, the actual text of the agreement makes room for disputes about "level playing field" stuff and so on, but it basically is the agreement, it can't in essence change and there'll be no appetite for it to change.

If the EU survives the next 20-30 years, and I personally see parallels in history towards it not surviving simply because of the rise of nationalism/populism resulting in global conflicts in the not too distant future (only reason they haven't happened already is due to nuclear weaponry existing)... well anyway, if it survives, there might be discussion about a different kind of re-joining then, but with much less influence than we already had due to a vastly reduced standing on the international stage.

But, again, we have blue passports now, so who cares. Huzzah!

Agree with a lot of that.

There will be a downturn in our finances from both covid and Brexit, but it will be impossible to draw a line between the two. One thing we can be pretty certain of is that most remain voters will blame Brexit, and most Leave voters will blame covid.

I disagree on the SM & CU as I don't believe we will need another referendum. It's quite conceivable that Labour, with Starmer at the helm, could fight the next General Election with a remit of joining the single market with a Norway type deal, and if he wins I believe that will give him all the mandate we need. It's not as if we would actually be rejoining the EU, and given the latter has played such a play in the recent Brexit negotiations for even more alignment, I don't see them objecting.

I agree that Ireland is now just a few steps away from unity and can see this happening within maybe 5 years. Not sure about Scotland, I think it may depend how bad the economic fallout is after Brexit/covid.

Without the UK in the EU I do think that they will try and go further down the Federation route. But this could easily backfire on them and lead to some countries looking to follow the UK. Hard call really.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Well he can't take his dog or cat out of GB. Pet passports cancelled.

Well if he was planning to take his dog or cat on a day trip to France to go walkies today, he could have put that as an answer. I'd have had some doubts over his honesty had he come back with that though.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Every EU nation could have banned the practice within their territorial waters from early 2019. There’s a complete EU ban coming into force in June, but don’t let facts get in the way.

Vrolijk Group called North Atlantic Fishing Company, which has offices in Hull and Caterham, which employs hundreds of trawler and related based English dwelling person's will be over moon their Pulse investment has been scrapped overnight... It's the Dutch one of closest Brexit allies frying the fish, and a charge led by the French to get it banned.

So full of nonsense leavers they really are the champions of the ignoramus.

French fishermen paralyse Calais in protest over pulse fishing

French fishermen blockaded Calais throughout Thursday, halting shipping movements at France's busiest passenger port and a major entry point to Europe for British goods, in protest at losses inflicted by the practice of electric pulse fishing.

uk.reuters.com

 

[Jebus_lives]

What???

I forgot you don't do subtlety.

I was suggesting that just simply not actively engaging with something, ie a right or prevention, doesn't mean that it isn't a loss to lose it.

You don't always need to be conscious of your rights for them to be benefitting you.

 

[peteblue]

Vrolijk Group called North Atlantic Fishing Company, which has offices in Hull and Caterham, which employs hundreds of trawler and related based English dwelling person's will be over moon their Pulse investment has been scrapped overnight... It's the Dutch one of closest Brexit allies frying the fish, and a charge led by the French to get it banned.

So full of nonsense leavers they really are the champions of the ignoramus.

French fishermen paralyse Calais in protest over pulse fishing

French fishermen blockaded Calais throughout Thursday, halting shipping movements at France's busiest passenger port and a major entry point to Europe for British goods, in protest at losses inflicted by the practice of electric pulse fishing.

uk.reuters.com

Can you not just be happy that the U.K. have banned it.....

 

[Jebus_lives]

Can you not just be happy that the U.K. have banned it.....

Hahahahahahaha.

What an utter weasel

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Can you not just be happy that the U.K. have banned it.....

No Johnson could have done it anytime in his premiership and beggars belief why our government has been messing about with partial informal bans here and there. Well most know why it's been saved until now, to con ignorance.
Let's hope it's a total ban not just ban on foreign registered vessels as originally negotiated.

 

[zzr45]

Vrolijk Group called North Atlantic Fishing Company, which has offices in Hull and Caterham, which employs hundreds of trawler and related based English dwelling person's will be over moon their Pulse investment has been scrapped overnight... It's the Dutch one of closest Brexit allies frying the fish, and a charge led by the French to get it banned.

So full of nonsense leavers they really are the champions of the ignoramus.

French fishermen paralyse Calais in protest over pulse fishing

French fishermen blockaded Calais throughout Thursday, halting shipping movements at France's busiest passenger port and a major entry point to Europe for British goods, in protest at losses inflicted by the practice of electric pulse fishing.

uk.reuters.com

Are you actually endorsing one of the most destructive forms of fishing to get one over on Pete? Christ.

 

[Jebus_lives]

No Johnson could have done it anytime in his premiership and beggars belief why our government has been messing about with partial informal bans here and there. Well most US know why it's been saved until now, to con ignorance.
Let's hope it's a total ban not just ban on foreign registered vessels as originally negotiated.

Probably time for Pete's drink...

 

[peteblue]

No Johnson could have done it anytime in his premiership and beggars belief why our government has been messing about with partial informal bans here and there. Well most US know why it's been saved until now, to con ignorance.
Let's hope it's a total ban not just ban on foreign registered vessels as originally negotiated.

It is a total ban apparently...