Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Barnfred 55]

Oh I deffo want a deal.

The "celebrating" is absent though. Its just that absolute crap that was lapped up for years by some who enjoyed having their confirmation bias confirmed, has been exposed for what it was. Crap.

Lets see. Sommet might get sorted.

It wasn't aimed at you.

I have also noticed anger levels rising in here, and I understand that. I'm going to stay out of it for a while

 

[The binman chronicles]

"Norway Plus"

My arse

No way plus they said.

“Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market”. Daniel Hannan, 12/5/15.

“The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want”. Michael Gove, 9/4/16.

“British people will still be able to go and work in the EU; to live; to travel; to study; and buy homes and settle down. There will continue to be free trade and access to the single market”. Boris Johnson, 26/6/16.

“Getting out of the EU can be quick and easy - the UK holds most of the cards”. John Redwood, 17/7/16.

“There will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside”. David Davis, 10/10/16.

“The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history”. Liam Fox, 20/7/17.

“Most of the EU states are very sympathetic to our view”. David Davis, 15/5/17.

“I believe that we can get a free trade and customs agreement concluded before March 2019”. David Davis, 18/1/17.

“Within two years, before the negotiation with the EU is likely to be complete, and therefore before anything material has changed, we can negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU … The new trade agreements will come into force at the point of exit, but they will be fully negotiated”. David Davis, 14/7/16.

“There is no plan for no deal, because we’re going to get a great deal”. Boris Johnson, 11/7/17.

“But we didn’t vote to leave without a deal. That wasn’t the message of the campaign I helped lead. During that campaign, we said we should do a deal with the EU and be part of the network of free trade deals that covers all Europe, from Iceland to Turkey. Leaving without a deal on March 29 would not honour that commitment. It would undoubtedly cause economic turbulence.” Michael Gove, 3/3/19.

“I’ve looked carefully at ‘no deal’. That outcome would be a failure of statecraft”, Boris Johnson, 9/9/19.

"I can indeed assure the hon. Lady that there will be no crashing out, because we will negotiate a great new friendship and partnership within the timescale. I know that hon. Members on both sides of the House have every confidence in the Government to do that. " Boris Johnson, 22/10/19.

“We have an ‘oven ready’ deal, let's put it in the microwave, as soon as we get back after the election on 12 December." Boris Johnson, 31/10/19.

“Our deal is the only one on the table. It is signed, sealed and ready. It puts the whole country on a path to a new free trade agreement with the EU. This will be a new relationship based on free trade and friendly cooperation” Conservative Party Manifesto, 24/11/19.

Fake news. Sovereignty. Our massive fishing fleet. We all voted to be worse off and we wanted to prevent the younger generations from having the opportunities we had. Rule Britannia, we're getting the empire back and so on.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Does anyone think the EU is concerned that Britain is going to set higher standards for food production or indeed any other production in the future.

Kerching!
And of course we could do that as member state as with much of EU legislation, it's minimum standards. Member states can individually enhance standards through their own sovereign governances.

 

[Jebus_lives]

That's not what you said in your post though. All I was trying to do was clarify for you. Wasn't trying to put any slant on it. Won't bother in future.

Most of you in here seem almost happy that the UK aren't getting a deal, just so you can be proved right. You're practically celebrating Johnson's failures. I don't get that personally but hey.

Perhaps read the whole exchange as the 'changing of positions' was a rumour presented by the UK, denied by the EU.

If we aren't, as Armin was suggesting, using Remainer Twitter as fact (I wasn't as it goes), then surely we shouldn't be doing the same for UK Government leaks, no?

On the second point, take some responsibility for yourself. You wanted to leave - deal with the consequences. Nobody is happy about, but plenty of people told it would happen, and you're getting pissy because they're reminding you of that fact.

 

[Blues Harp]

That's not what you said in your post though. All I was trying to do was clarify for you. Wasn't trying to put any slant on it. Won't bother in future.

Most of you in here seem almost happy that the UK aren't getting a deal, just so you can be proved right. You're practically celebrating Johnson's failures. I don't get that personally but hey.

Looking forward to higher food prices, because of increased tariffs delays in my medication, etc. Whoop De fecking do.
Thanks for nothing bozo De waffle
Show me some concrete benefits of leaving without mentioning "sovereignty"

 

[roydo]

Looking forward to higher food prices, because of increased tariffs delays in my medication, etc. Whoop De fecking do.
Thanks for nothing bozo De waffle
Show me some concrete benefits of leaving without mentioning "sovereignty"

On the meds, I think, and its only cos I think I read it on BBC the other day, that they sort of have a separate global thing. Once a country have approved one, its good to go. Or arrive. If you get my drift.

edit. Or maybe not. ffs

 

[Jebus_lives]

Genuine morons

 

[Chewbacca]

Genuine morons

Tit

we are negotiating with the EU not Germany

 

[Jebus_lives]

Tit

we are negotiating with the EU not Germany

Trying to manufacture outrage from gullible people

 

[Blues Harp]

Genuine morons

Presumptious git........par for the course in Tory(Britannia)Land.

 

[Prevenger17]

Genuine morons

Lol. As if Merkel doesn't have better things to be doing

 

[The binman chronicles]

Tit

we are negotiating with the EU not Germany

True but she would probably take a call if the UK's position had changed. But it hasn't and it's the same conversation over and over, how many languages can they hear it's a non starter in?

They probably still think the EU is bluffing and will say of course you can have what you want on Sunday.

 

[Blues Harp]

No Deal = Australian deal atm....even their ex PM Turnbull slagged off his countries WTO arrangement.
Its what de Waffle and the ERG mob wanted all along.....now the majority of this country has to suffer because of their greed
Sovreignity my arse!!

 

[sbbefc]

There will be riots.

 

[urquattro]

Nah they won’t. Look at them now. Hardly getting shafted in the polls. They’ll just take more money off poor people and tell everyone how there’s less foreign people about. The press will not drop their support.
Personally think Starmer looks weak in opposition also.

I think if people become desperate enough because their living standards deteriorate badly then a vote for change will happen just out of the necessity of wanting something more than the lot they have at the time.