Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Stop being dramatic for Christ sake. People will still go back to work on the 4th jan.

Nobody is losing their job that quickly. If at all.

Some things will be 8% more pricey, some will be cheaper.

Like all pathetic nationalists, you'd be hilarious if it wasn't for the fact that real people are suffering because of your short-sighted stupidity. People have lost jobs already. Couples that cross borders have had to radically alter the lives already.

arminisgod, you are a pathetic, weak creature. Your creed is hate. You wear your ignorance as a shield. You would be nothing more than pitiable, were it not for that fact that your self-destructive ways are determining the path for us all.
 
Like all pathetic nationalists, you'd be hilarious if it wasn't for the fact that real people are suffering because of your short-sighted stupidity. People have lost jobs already. Couples that cross borders have had to radically alter the lives already.

arminisgod, you are a pathetic, weak creature. Your creed is hate. You wear your ignorance as a shield. You would be nothing more than pitiable, were it not for that fact that your self-destructive ways are determining the path for us all.

Pretty sure more people will lose their livelihoods because of covid than Brexit, like

But question the COVID measures and you get told you want people to die
 
The silver lining to all the devastation that has or will be caused by a deal or no deal is that the UK Tory's will be voted out at the next GE.
 
The EU are massively scared of further fractures so obviously aren't just going to bow to whatever the UK asks for. That's all well and good. COVID has probably further complicated the thing. I'm not saying they should bow either - they have to negotiate and I don't think most sensible people would disagree.

As much as I know that Cameron mainly did it to appease tory backbenchers, his initial quips were probably fair.


It's a broken system and people treat it like it'll be the end of the world. It won't be and, generally, things will be pretty much the same, because frankly it suits everybody (the UK and EU) for it to be that way.

It's how stuff looks and how things are perceived - both sides are wanting to come out of this as the 'winners' (which is wrong, IMO, as it's not about winning). There's going to be no changes for another six months (EU announced today). Nobody is getting booted out of the country that is legally here and nobody who is a British citizen is going to be getting booted out of EU countries either. People have had to get visas - it's not a huge deal - and once COVID is over there will still be plenty of travel and people moving around the continent.

I'm not saying Brexit is good or what I thought it would be and there's tons of reasons for that, but it isn't going to be the end of the world. I'm a lot more worried about the impact COVID lockdowns have had and how the entire globe bounces back from that.
 
Stop being dramatic for Christ sake. People will still go back to work on the 4th jan.

Nobody is losing their job that quickly. If at all.

Some things will be 8% more pricey, some will be cheaper.

... with an economy that makes income not rise in line with those increases, meaning everyone is 8% poorer.

Including businesses who will go under with that additional burden. Which in turn means job losses. Unemployment will inevitably rise, and with that the child poverty rate will increase, mental health will decline nationally

Add to that the fact we'll now be vastly less competitive on the world stage unless we provide massive tax breaks to compensate for no longer being an EU access point. With those tax breaks, the government needs to make the money back somehow (on top of a pandemic), so expect massive increases to taxes and swathing cuts in public services, with the economy even more skewed to London as the race to the bottom begins. The north will be decimated as a result.

With the border in the Irish Sea, Ireland will push to be united as it simply makes logistical sense now. Scotland, empowered by a failing UK, will push and get another referendum and go it alone.

All of this is foreseeable, even likely, scenarios. Not dramatic.

But we'll have blue passports so it's all sound.

EDIT: Your last sentence; you seem to be making out like it'll balance out.

No, it won't. Huge hit to our GDP, Brexit hurts us far, far more than it does the EU.
 
Here we go...

A non-regression agreement is what was agreed 10 days ago until Barnier returned and took it off the table. Yet here he is in 2018 talking about a similar deal.

 
Stop being dramatic for Christ sake. People will still go back to work on the 4th jan.

Nobody is losing their job that quickly. If at all.

Some things will be 8% more pricey, some will be cheaper.
Absolute tosh. As I’ve already posted in this thread a good friend of mine and the rest of his colleagues are all out of a job on January 1st as the government have bought the place they work and surrounding grounds as a holding area for HMRC checks on all freight in or out of the local port. Disgusting last minute panic by them. It may not affect you personally but there are thousands who will be negatively affected by the actions of this inept government we have the misfortune to be living under.
 
The silver lining to all the devastation that has or will be caused by a deal or no deal is that the UK Tory's will be voted out at the next GE.
It’s what they want though... then the next government will be left with this utter carnage which will not be able to be a short time fixing so the following election will see them voted again in favour of the tories as nothing will or can have been improved. It’s disgusting and depressing to think about.
 
The silver lining to all the devastation that has or will be caused by a deal or no deal is that the UK Tory's will be voted out at the next GE.
Nah they won’t. Look at them now. Hardly getting shafted in the polls. They’ll just take more money off poor people and tell everyone how there’s less foreign people about. The press will not drop their support.
Personally think Starmer looks weak in opposition also.
 
Absolute tosh. As I’ve already posted in this thread a good friend of mine and the rest of his colleagues are all out of a job on January 1st as the government have bought the place they work and surrounding grounds as a holding area for HMRC checks on all freight in or out of the local port. Disgusting last minute panic by them. It may not affect you personally but there are thousands who will be negatively affected by the actions of this inept government we have the misfortune to be living under.
It’s mental the amount of damage this government has caused and no one is taking accountability for their vote.
 
It’s mental the amount of damage this government has caused and no one is taking accountability for their vote.
They won’t mate as they are too embarrassed and ashamed of themselves, it’s their default position. I read something the other day which went something like

leave won the referendum
Tories win the election
Tories drew up the withdrawal agreement
Tories campaigned for Brexit again
Tories win another election
Tories carried out the discussions for leaving with the EU

Yet this mess is the fault of remainers


This isn’t the exact quote but was the general gist of it.
 
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