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My original post was about the 'carnet' system that has been in place for decades. That's all.
You should know I'm through with locking horns with anyone in this thread, roydo.
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My original post was about the 'carnet' system that has been in place for decades. That's all.
You should know I'm through with locking horns with anyone in this thread, roydo.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
You are of course right. But we killed off the hope of our fishermen once, I really hope we do not do it a second time. If it is such an unimportant thing then why are the EU not prepared just to let us have what we want ?....
^ March 2017.
I'm pleased to report the sky still hasn't fallen, house prices haven't fallen through the floor and I'm still not having to go back to my mars box room.
Win.
orchard
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BoE press goes 'brrrrrrrr'...
I don't know why anyone is worked up over fish. But Brexiters seem to fetishise it in the extreme.
I can't think of any industry which contributes so little too the UK, which is given so much prominence in political conversation.
I'm still waiting to see the benefits. Being happy the sky hasn't fallen in (yet) isn't really cause for success is it?
A huge success given the picture painted.
If you told people after the result of the referendum, and the years afterwards there would be no noticeable impact - they'd have took that.
I've personally not noticed a single impact to all this chaos we were told just the uncertainty alone of Brexit would bring.
I was hoping the housing market would plummet due to Brexit like George Osbourne and co all told us would no doubt happen...
Of course, but I'm not sure you can base an entire negotiating strategy on emotion. Lots of people have been let down, but you have to do whats right for the entire country, not 1 section of it.
As for the EU, I'll be frank, I'm not sure I know enough to comment, and while that doesn't usually stop me, I'll have to bow out on that point.
Were you hoping to get onto the market Dan?
Er, we havent left yet?
January onwards is when we can see if the doom predictions of tarriffs, price increases and supply chain breakdowns were correct
The picture painted was:
We've spent the best part of 2 years preparing for major disruption.
The picture painted hasn't been fully finished yet as we are in transition.
As I said, I'm yet to see any benefit. Other than 'it hasn't been as bad as we thought' while we are still effectively a part of the EU.
There seems to be a lot of wishful thinking about the lack of impact on lives despite us actually not having to go it alone yet.
I was lucky enough to get on it in the summer of 2016 mate.
Do think the housing market is daft though - near impossible for younger generations now.
If the cost of housing fell 50% overnight, I'd be glad.
The consensus was pretty universal the market would tumble significantly after the result of the referendum. It's one of the doom and gloom forecasts I hoped would actually happen! House prices have kept going up though eh.
We'll see.
Again though, most of the doom and gloom was around the uncertainty.
Personally, I've never fretted/got on board with all the panic because I just didn't see Brexit impacting day-to-day life and certainly not to the scale some wanted us to believe.
Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones?
99% of the media narrative was one of the sky will fall after the result of the referendum.
As I predicted on here, and still predict - we'll look back and think 'what was all that fuss about?!'
roydo
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I ignored all that, as I did when a factory closing, or opening was claimed to be Brexit related to win the internet.
But I believed then,, and I still do, that many millions of folk didnt have a clue what they were really voting for. I didnt, and no one could tell me, so I voted for what I knew, warts and all.
The fantasy land presented to me by Farage et al was bollox then, and its bollox now.
Like most, I dont know how supplies and prices and what ever will do next year, I hope my fears are unfounded, but on balance, it still seems a mental cost to find out.
And 4 years ago, I asked any leaver to explain how the Irish/NI border + Ending Free Movement equals. Other than "Break International Law", I still havnt had an answer. If you fancy a stab at it, go ahead.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
It is far less political than in France. Macron has a very vocal and demonstrative group of farmer and fishermen, who think nothing of causing chaos on motorways and ports. The problem for France and Macron is that the French fishermen will not only have reduced areas because of that reduced access, but also that other EU countries will then be wanting to access French fishing grounds. Personally I would have offered a five year, year on year reduction, transition period to the EU as our own fishing capability is renewed as this would soften the blow. But of course if the EU chose not to have any deal then they won’t have any access.
They keep saying that if the U.K. wants access to the EU market then they must have access to our fishing grounds, completely ignoring the fact that in terms of trade the U.K. market is far more valuable to the Eu than the Eu market is to the U.K. where we have an £80Bn deficit.....
Utter hogwash. The Daily Mail, Daily Telegraph, Sun, Daily Express (just to name four national newspapers) were completely opposed to the EU and have been for about 20 years. Do you think they constitute 1% of the media?
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