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So, from a fishing perspective, it looks like the U.K. has done deals with Greenland, Faroes, Norway and Iceland for January implementation. And as these 5 nations hold most of the fish stocks it will be up to them working together to determine sustainability of fishing and no longer in the hands of the bureaucracy in the EU......
 
peteblue said:
So, from a fishing perspective, it looks like the U.K. has done deals with Greenland, Faroes, Norway and Iceland for January implementation. And as these 5 nations hold most of the fish stocks it will be up to them working together to determine sustainability of fishing and no longer in the hands of the bureaucracy in the EU......
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Why do Brexiters get so worked up about fish?
 
peteblue said:
So, from a fishing perspective, it looks like the U.K. has done deals with Greenland, Faroes, Norway and Iceland for January implementation. And as these 5 nations hold most of the fish stocks it will be up to them working together to determine sustainability of fishing and no longer in the hands of the bureaucracy in the EU......
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So another collective group of nation states? Using the acronym FUKING perchance?
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
Why do Brexiters get so worked up about fish?
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It‘s a sore point for a lot who originally voted to join the common market. Stitched up by that clown Heath. However it will have a massive effect upon those small coastal towns around the U.K. which have seen years of neglect, and is also a significant political statement of sovereignty. You might ask why are the EU so worked up over fish ......
 
peteblue said:
It‘s a sore point for a lot who originally voted to join the common market. Stitched up by that clown Heath. However it will have a massive effect upon those small coastal towns around the U.K. which have seen years of neglect, and is also a significant political statement of sovereignty. You might ask why are the EU so worked up over fish ......
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Do you think, given many of these arguments seem to go back to nearly 50 years ago, that we may just be cutting off our nose to spite our face a little? Obviously for the areas where fishing is important it is a critical issue, but when looked across the entire economy, surely maintaining smooth supply chains is far more important?
 
Bishop Thumpety-Thump said:
I think the first point you make is massively missing the point mate. I know many UK born musicians who regularly work overseas, just think of all those employed in summer seasons in hotels right across mainland Europe, and on cruise ships etc. That's before we consider orchestra level professionals who travel all over the world (and have multiple instruments).
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I don't think I am.

If one was to take a survey of all the semi-pro and pro musicians in the UK, I believe you would find that most work within their own immediate area. I say that from the knowledge I gained from when I started gigging in Liverprool in 1969, right up to where I am now (and will pick up gigging again in January, Covid permitting). At any given time, there is not a whole slew of bands in every city throughout the UK touring the continent.

But it is an interesting discussion, and one of the many issues that has cropped up, but as I said the carnet scenario is one that has been in existence for as long as the CITES laws have existed, and that is the failsafe way to ensure an instrument is not confiscated, and potentially destroyed by the authorites. It's nothing new, and has nothing to do with Brexit.

Gibson got done by the US authorities under CITES several years ago for falsifying documents relating to the importation of wood in order to bypass the CITES regulations. Look it up, it's all on t'internet.
 
Old Blue 2 said:
I don't think I am.

If one was to take a survey of all the semi-pro and pro musicians in the UK, I believe you would find that most work within their own immediate area. I say that from the knowledge I gained from when I started gigging in Liverprool in 1969, right up to where I am now (and will pick up gigging again in January, Covid permitting). At any given time, there is not a whole slew of bands in every city throughout the UK touring the continent.

But it is an interesting discussion, and one of the many issues that has cropped up, but as I said the carnet scenario is one that has been in existence for as long as the CITES laws have existed, and that is the failsafe way to ensure an instrument is not confiscated, and potentially destroyed by the authorites. It's nothing new, and has nothing to do with Brexit.

Gibson got done by the US authorities under CITES several years ago for falsifying documents relating to the importation of wood in order to bypass the CITES regulations. Look it up, it's all on t'internet.
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Well I'm specifically talking about professional musicians. They're the ones that will pay much more under this new system. For no good reason that I can see.
 
peteblue said:
hahaha.....well done.....
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So how are we going to manage our sea resources differently?

It won't be as you allude, with small village owned ships fishing sustainably, will it.

Nothing about this government suggests that small local businesses will be treated equally in contradistinction with its attitude towards corporate interests.
 
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