Current Affairs EU In or Out

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  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Saw a headline the other day that sommet like 800,000 "unskilled" workers have left the UK, cos, y'know.

This week, for the first time I can recall, Amazon are desperately advertising for Warehouse Assistants, in the build up to Christmas. (Drivers are coining it in; circa £60k, pro rata)

Now Covid has deffo lobbed tons extra onto the online delivery world, but in lock down, I know for a fact, that all the couriers were operating at Christmas levels Plus 2, for months.

Probably unrelated eh?
 
Flooded uplands.



I'm sure the great old folk of Kent will be wonderfully happy with all of this given that two thirds of them voted for Brexit but as with all important paperwork please look at the terms and conditions before you wholly commit yourself.

A no deal Brexit would be catastrophic for this nation but as I've said here previously, the trouble is fact free based exceptionalism and bullsh1t won them Brexit so it’s not really that surprising to many of us that some of Brexit’s loudest champions have totally convinced themselves that fact free based exceptionalism and bullsh1t can suddenly bring all those so called much heralded mighty big trade deals out of thin air and give us non existent borders.

Lets also not forget that no deal was never mentioned pre-referendum - I refer you to Vote Leave promising a deal in their propaganda:

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It is quite incredible what they are getting away with, yet some people still cheer them on from sidelines as their rights now enshrined in EU law are systematically stripped from them.
 
Saw a headline the other day that sommet like 800,000 "unskilled" workers have left the UK

Food will become something of a luxury item next year.

Massive price increases across the board, especially in a no deal scenario. But things look grim even with a free trade agreement because of increased non-tariff costs.

This is not an opinion nor scaremongering - this is cold hard Brexit reality.

Source: Vulnerabilities of Supply Chains Post-Brexit (London School of Economics and Political Science)


Why are we doing this again? Remind me why Brexit is so great.
 
Food will become something of a luxury item next year.

Massive price increases across the board, especially in a no deal scenario. But things look grim even with a free trade agreement because of increased non-tariff costs.

This is not an opinion nor scaremongering - this is cold hard Brexit reality.

Source: Vulnerabilities of Supply Chains Post-Brexit (London School of Economics and Political Science)


Why are we doing this again? Remind me why Brexit is so great.

I have longed maintained that hardly anyone gives any attention to just how brilliant, yet vulnerable, our supply/distribution system is.

Some interruptions to it are unavoidable, (weather, volcanos, pandemics, traffic), but to interrupt it by choice, is utterly brainless.
 
I have longed maintained that hardly anyone gives any attention to just how brilliant, yet vulnerable, our supply/distribution system is.

Some interruptions to it are unavoidable, (weather, volcanos, pandemics, traffic), but to interrupt it by choice, is utterly brainless.

I worked in manufacturing supply chain logistics for many years. Brexit will make ‘Just In Time’ supply chains extremely difficult and much more expensive to manage. Manufacturers will seek to move out of the UK in favour of the ease of goods movements within the EU.

There’s still a lot of uncertainty in the car industry in-particular around the 'Just In Time' supply chain and the continued possibility of a No Deal Brexit, which would be catastrophic for all British manufacturing. The CEO’s of Nissan & Jaguar have repeatedly warned about this.

Medicine is also a big concern. There are shortages of some medicines now. Nothing about Brexit will make the 'Just In Time' medicines supply chain any more efficient, especially at a time when we need it most in the middle of a global pandemic.

Brexit cheerleaders have no idea of the complexity and scale of the manufacturing and logistics operation which gets medicines to pharmacies.

The 'Get Ready for Brexit' adverts we're seeing are there to prepare the public for the Government's 'blame the businesses' narrative when everything turns to 'mush' come the new year and we run out of food and medicine and all car manufacturing in the UK ends.
 
I worked in manufacturing supply chain logistics for many years. Brexit will make ‘Just In Time’ supply chains extremely difficult and much more expensive to manage.

My experience is way less than yours; did deliveries for 4 or 5 years.

But how someone can order coffee from Canada at 6.00pm (their time), and I am delivering it at 10.00 am (our time), the next day in the UK still bewilders me. I mean its clicks and the coffee was obviously warehoused in the UK, but still.

Folk havnt a clue.
 
Yes, and they're about to find out the hard way.

All that was dismissed as 'Project Fear' is now coming true. The pointless, damaging and avoidable Brexit they crave will be hitting us all in 47 days time. As it stands it is poised to catastrophically ruin the country.

I am praying that sense will take hold before then. The Biden win certainly helps that. Because quite frankly, a no deal, is a PITA for everyone. Not just the UK.

The medicine issue is foremost in my mind, (we will all see this through our own world, obvs), and have already decided to order a full set of scripts for Mrs R tomorrow. Will put them away, and keep just topping up as required, but she will have 4 to 6 weeks worth of them, just in case.

That shouldnt be the case.
 
Dear God guys. Some of you in here do nothing but moan about Trump not accepting the result of a vote in the USA. Yet here you all are, yet again, with the doom and gloom even though we actually left at the beginning of the year. I‘m sure you all mean well, but ffs guys is there ever going to be a day when you give this up and actually get behind your own country. Just to summarise, the U.K. voted to leave the EU, the U.K. left the EU in January, the U.K. is now just negotiating either an FTA or a WTO trading relationship. There are no other options. Moaning and behaving like mini Trumps is doing no one any good......
 
I am praying that sense will take hold before then. The Biden win certainly helps that. Because quite frankly, a no deal, is a PITA for everyone. Not just the UK.

The medicine issue is foremost in my mind, (we will all see this through our own world, obvs), and have already decided to order a full set of scripts for Mrs R tomorrow. Will put them away, and keep just topping up as required, but she will have 4 to 6 weeks worth of them, just in case.

That shouldnt be the case.

The medicine issue is also the most pressing in our household. My wife was diagnosed with leukaemia earlier this year and I have my own health issues. We are hugely concerned about the dangerously unnecessary issues that Brexit is going to bring us and most importantly her treatment.

Brexit just seems to be a bit of laugh to some people. Fish, blue passports, waffle about sovereignty / border control (both of which we already had) all driven by xenophobia, greed and a false sense of cantankerous British entitlement.

For me and my family (my wife is French) it is as far from a joke as you can get.

Ours lives are going to demonstrably damaged. And for what?
 
Dear God guys. Some of you in here do nothing but moan about Trump not accepting the result of a vote in the USA. Yet here you all are, yet again, with the doom and gloom even though we actually left at the beginning of the year. I‘m sure you all mean well, but ffs guys is there ever going to be a day when you give this up and actually get behind your own country. Just to summarise, the U.K. voted to leave the EU, the U.K. left the EU in January, the U.K. is now just negotiating either an FTA or a WTO trading relationship. There are no other options. Moaning and behaving like mini Trumps is doing no one any good......

Dont see anyone not accepting the vote.

As for behaving like mini Trumps, think that is your game; "The churches will be full at Easter". "The easiest trade deal in history"

Reality is gonna hit mate. Many suggested the unicorn fantasy you voted for was utter eye wash. You continue to believe is will all be superb. That is Trumpism, at its finest.
 
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