Current Affairs EU In or Out

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  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
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    Votes: 325 32.1%

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No you're wrong.



No, he really isn't.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07d6f8y/eu-referendum-campaign-broadcasts-vote-leave-23052016

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The EU has not stood in the way of Zero hour contracts - so they are on the slide before we leave the stink over HUBA pushed allegedly through via Osborne and DC - and Osborne just gets a job with Blackrock £650,000 for 48 days the crap has yet to hit the fan over that yet !
the very firm who abuses the self employed!
What have zero hours contracts got to do with the EU ffs?

They could be regulated by the UK parliament if it wished to. You know the one that we've been fighting for the right to supposedly 'get back control' of?

They're not on the slide btw, they're on the increase, with over 900k currently employed via them.
 
when we leave on negotiated terms - we will have at least 8 billion surplus in leaving the EU - also we may have a better trade surplus - so lets stay in a polictical union with Zero growth hey!
so yes the NHS will gain it was just used as an example not factually correct even Farage stated that as the rebates had not been taken in to account both side told whoppers by the way!
 
You're funny.

The difference between an aspiration and a commitment? Yeah I reckon I know the difference mate.

Do you know the difference between a genuine deliverable aspiration and a complete crock of horse crap?

The £350m per week for the NHS was never deliverable not least because our net contribution to the EU is actually circa £163m per week, they've admitted it since, it was therefore disingenuous, misleading, false advertising and a known published LIE.

Osbourne predicted a £30BN hole in the Treasury budget, a complete whopper that one eh mate?

Oh wait, didn't the OBR and Hammond the current Chancellor state that the hole in the UK's finances is going to be a minimum of £58.7BN in his Autumn statement? Which they're intending borrowing their way out of, break that down and it equates to £188m a week.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...b0cc60d3476321#block-5835aa54e4b0cc60d3476321

What a deal, what a day to be alive. Rule Britannia.

See my previous post re I said last year in this thread that I knew it was a GROSS amount. And the Tories have been borrowing their way out of trouble for years, so what's new...???

Still trotting out the same old whingeing of the Remoaners, I see.

Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to see, Brexit start today!

;)
 
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You can all spend forever presenting isolated campaigning snippets for both sides of the arguments.

I don't think the UK will be the last to leave the EU, and I think we'll look back in years to come and think the doom and gloom was way over the top.

There's also a tendency now to blame things like food getting smaller/costlier on "Brexit" when that's happened all my life.

Experts told me the uncertainty after the referendum would mean the sky would fall and I'd be living in my mars box room - I've not noticed any difference personally...

Doom and gloom sells - the media will always lead with the doom and gloom.
 
What have zero hours contracts got to do with the EU ffs?

They could be regulated by the UK parliament if it wished to. You know the one that we've been fighting for the right to supposedly 'get back control' of?

They're not on the slide btw, they're on the increase, with over 900k currently employed via them.
Really ask Spain -Italy - Greece the only economy with growth is Germany!
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/...-countries-expected-to-slow-in-2017-1.2973607
 
like Toyota and Qatar you mean? investing - we did survive without the EU even though we were pushed into it without votes we have now had one and its goodbye to an unnecessary bureaucratic party union of 28 countries when only three contributed all the rest were net contributors - the first thing they want is a pay off as we have left a massive hole of 12 billion in their budget!
they can dream on!

Toyota you say.......the same Toyota who's European CEO said this 2 weeks ago?

the European boss of Toyota warned tariff-free access from the UK to the continent was vital to the future success of the plant.

Johan van Zyl, president and chief executive of Toyota Motor Europe, said: “Continued tariff- and barrier-free market access between the UK and Europe that is predictable and uncomplicated will be vital for future success.”

The EU are going to ask the UK to fulfil it's financial commitments i.e. pay up in full for agreements that we've already signed up for. Quite hwat that figure ends up being will be thrashed out and argued by lawyers and politicians, but we'll end up paying what's due and rightly so. You can't tell them to go hang on that issue as your opening salvo in the negotiations ffs, not even Davis hinted that'll be their tack.
 
Yeah, £350 million GROSS. I was stating that last year in this thread.

Wakey, wakey...

And your point is? You're still utterly wrong.

We never send Brussels £350m. The claim is a lie.

We never could spend £350m on the NHS instead of sending it to Brussels, as we never sent £350m.

It was a lie. Not an 'aspiration'; a lie.

You are wrong, you must know you're wrong, but you don't care.
 
See my previous post re I said last year in this thread that I knew it was a GROSS amount. And the Tories have been borrowing their way out of trouble for years, so what's new...???

Still trotting out the same old whingeing of the Remoaners, I see.

Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way
Oh what fun it is to see, Brexit start today!

;)
Did the advert make it clear it was a GROSS amount and therefore was never going to happen - even as an 'aspiration'?

Welcome to the point.

So Brexit costing the economy £188m a week over the next 5 years (which is more than we currently pay the EU) is sound then?

Ok mate, stonking logic.
 
And your point is? You're still utterly wrong.

We never send Brussels £350m. The claim is a lie.

We never could spend £350m on the NHS instead of sending it to Brussels, as we never sent £350m.

It was a lie. Not an 'aspiration'; a lie.

You are wrong, you must know you're wrong, but you don't care.


Some people just don't read posts properly, if they bother to read some posts at all...
 
why as EU law employment rights not protected no Zero hour contract then if they are so good on employment rights?
Because they're not widely in use in Europe Joey, in fact a dozen or so countries have banned them and our Labour MEPs were pushing the EU to outlaw them across the spectrum.

There is and was absolutely knack all to stop our Govt acting to stop them on it's own, to point the finger of blame at the EU for zero hours contracts being legal in the UK is absolutely ridiculous and yet another example of how thin on actual facts the arguments you put forward are I'm afraid
 
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