Current Affairs EU In or Out

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  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
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Some people just don't read posts properly, if they bother to read some posts at all...
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Did the advert make it clear it was a GROSS amount and therefore was never going to happen - even as an 'aspiration'?

Welcome to the point.

So Brexit costing the economy £188m a week over the next 5 years (which is more than we currently pay the EU) is sound then?

Ok mate, stonking logic.

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Read the leaflet above, and note: "...WE GET LESS THAN HALF OF THIS BACK...". Now in the English that I speak, that's pretty clear, what?

And surprise, surprise, it's a comparison, because: "...ENOUGH TO BUILD A NEW NHS HOSPITAL EVERY WEEK...".

Have a good day...
 
Some people just don't read posts properly, if they bother to read some posts at all...

I read. You said we sent a GROSS amount of £350m.

And I'm telling you we never did. The rebate is taken before we send anything.

Therefore:

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... is a complete, bald-faced lie.

Let's break it down sentence by sentence.

1. "We send the EU £350m million a week"

We don't.

2. "Let's fund our NHS instead."

We can't, as we don't send the EU £350 million a week.

Is that easy enough to understand?

But you'll say "that was just a slogan" I guess?

OK, here's a quote on Radio 4 by Gisela Stuart.

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Once again, a complete, bald-faced lie. From the co-chair of the campaign. On record.

You are wrong sir. Completely and utterly wrong.
 
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Read the leaflet above, and note: "...WE GET LESS THAN HALF OF THIS BACK...". Now in the English that I speak, that's pretty clear, what?

And surprise, surprise, it's a comparison, because: "...ENOUGH TO BUILD A NEW NHS HOSPITAL EVERY WEEK...".

Have a good day...

For the love of...

Look, it's this simple. We don't "send" the EU £350m a week. It doesn't "cost us" £350m a week. We don't get anything "back". The rebate is applied totally before we send anything. At no point are the two bold statements above true, ever.

It's a lie, deliberately done to create hyperbole on the full figure. It is known as propaganda.
 
A campaign promise wasn't entirely true? Maybe even a lie?



The bus is a desperate attempt for some to try and understand the vote.

"It was the bus. The bus and that message"

Separately, this made me laugh a lot.

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Nick Clegg of all people demanding politicians be held to account for promises they made.

Nick Clegg.
 
A campaign promise wasn't entirely true? Maybe even a lie?



The bus is a desperate attempt for some to try and understand the vote.

"It was the bus. The bus and that message"

Separately, this made me laugh a lot.

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Nick Clegg of all people demanding politicians be held to account for promises they made.

Nick Clegg.


The irony would be lost on him.......
 
A campaign promise wasn't entirely true? Maybe even a lie?



The bus is a desperate attempt for some to try and understand the vote.

"It was the bus. The bus and that message"

Separately, this made me laugh a lot.

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Nick Clegg of all people demanding politicians be held to account for promises they made.

Nick Clegg.


It's the scale of the lies though. Exploited fear and negativity to gamble away our future growth prospects for ideological purposes.

Hence the division. Some, like myself, feel we've hamstrung ourselves as a nation in the years and decades to come due to lies and deceit from those who are supposed to represent our best interests.
 
Nah.

The battle on this was won due to intellectual dishonesty. That dishonesty needs flagging and remembering for when the consequences arrive.

Well so far the only proven dishonesty was spoken and promised by the Remain side and Osborne, it has yet to be proven whether or not the Leave promises were dishonest............
 
It's the scale of the lies though. Exploited fear and negativity to gamble away our future growth prospects for ideological purposes.

Hence the division. Some, like myself, feel we've hamstrung ourselves as a nation in the years and decades to come due to lies and deceit from those who are supposed to represent our best interests.

Hold on Tubey, who are you saying exploited fear and negativity...that was pretty well the only message from the Remain camp.....I don't remember hearing about all the benefits of being a member of the EU.......
 
Well so far the only proven dishonesty was spoken and promised by the Remain side and Osborne, it has yet to be proven whether or not the Leave promises were dishonest............

See my posts 10 minutes ago on one provable lie. Another one is Turkey.

Let's see Boris Johnsons 300,000 new jobs due to Brexit and so on (here's a spoiler; no chance). As for the economy? Yes, let's wait and see. Unfortunately we'll know over the next few years.
 
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