Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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I'm not going to overreact or anything, but I hope that in a few years time when everything is said and done - we'll be able to string up Gove, Johnson, Davis, Mogg, and anyone that voted for this utter shambles and lob house bricks at them.

Complete and utter meffs, them and anyone who supports their stance.

Ahhhh the good old tactic of the left. Insult them, threaten vandalism, feel superior to them. This is why people don't have any interest in labour anymore.
 
Deep and special partnership?

We celebrate our independence day from the EU, by wanting things a membership would bring.

Ahhhh the good old tactic of the left. Insult them, threaten vandalism, feel superior to them. This is why people don't have any interest in labour anymore.

The "i told you so" is by no means a leftist strategy. It's human nature to stand by your own views, and when something so far from ones own beliefs is being pushed upon one, it's only natural that people get frustrated.
 
Ahhhh the good old tactic of the left. Insult them, threaten vandalism, feel superior to them. This is why people don't have any interest in labour anymore.
With all due respect, I'm sick and tired of this argument. Labour, like the Democrats are not out of power because of insults, vandalism and a superiority complex. They are out of power because they spent the last generation pandering to the center and right while ignoring their base.
I fail to see how the left can be both delicate snowflakes and insulting thugs at the same time.
 
Ahhhh the good old tactic of the left. Insult them, threaten vandalism, feel superior to them. This is why people don't have any interest in labour anymore.

Yeah.. I don't think Labour actually do any of those things, or have done in recent history.
 
With all due respect, I'm sick and tired of this argument. Labour, like the Democrats are not out of power because of insults, vandalism and a superiority complex. They are out of power because they spent the last generation pandering to the center and right while ignoring their base. I fail to see how the left can be both delicate snowflakes and insulting thugs at the same time.

Obviously it's because his image of a "leftist" (horrible word, same as alt-right) is exactly that, in the exact same way the Number_25's image of the people who voted for leaving the EU bears extremely negative connotations.

And that is where the problem is in my view, political discussions in this age of social media are not driven by the discussed subject anymore. Instead it's reduced to name calling or threats, this derails it from a serious discussion to a train wreck in a matter of seconds.

It's so easy to call people racists, nazis, snowflakes or any other word when hiding behind a keyboard, and for some reason people get the feeling that they've won the discussion after this, because the actual debate ends and now it's all about who can use the worst words.
 
Obviously it's because his image of a "leftist" (horrible word, same as alt-right) is exactly that, in the exact same way the Number_25's image of the people who voted for leaving the EU bears extremely negative connotations.

And that is where the problem is in my view, political discussions in this age of social media are not driven by the discussed subject anymore. Instead it's reduced to name calling or threats, this derails it from a serious discussion to a train wreck in a matter of seconds.

It's so easy to call people racists, nazis, snowflakes or any other word when hiding behind a keyboard, and for some reason people get the feeling that they've won the discussion after this, because the actual debate ends and now it's all about who can use the worst words.
I think that's just Twitter mate
 
Yeah.. I don't think Labour actually do any of those things, or have done in recent history.
Gordon Brown , she is a racist.
Thorneberry white van man.
Shami rant.
Just a quick few when they have looked down on people and insulted them.
Vanderism can't say they have done but it's generally the far left who resort to vanderism is London ect , shut down free speech and threats to people who appose there view like trump coming here for example.
 
And facebook and quite a lot of social medias.

Thing is though, quite a lot of people only engage in political discussions in those places, and then it suddenly becomes the norm to call someone you disagree with a racist bigot or whatever.
I don't use either mate, inanity at it's worst imo.
 
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